Of course! Love is love, no matter who you love
Of course! Love is love, no matter who you love
I'm a christian and I support gay marriage. I don't believe that most religious folks know what marriage (before the eyes of God) is...if they did then they wouldn't be so threatened by gay marriage as it does not and will not ever tarnish marriage (in the eyes of God). God's definition of marriage is still intact whether or not the gay community can get married in the eyes of the law.
I am yet to see anyone who has a bent against gay marriage who doesn't use their religion as a basis for their bias
I have seen and met many people who support gay marriage come from all walks of life, religious and otherwise, but I am yet to see/meet/read one person who's against gay marriage and not use religion as the main reason for their argument.
Personally I think it's very sad that that they aren't given the option, they are people like everyone else who should be able to have the same rights and make their own choices.
Not only are they already facing public scrutiny and disapproval but being told they can't do something just because they aren't heterosexual is wrong IMO.
I honestly do not see how it effects others if a homosexual couple marries.
It also annoys me when people seem to think they "choose" their sexuality... It's not like they wake up one and think "Ok I've decided I'm going to be gay."
I haven't seen it on the hub but I do know a fair few people against homosexuality where I live (small town) and it's not for religious reasons, it's purely from the negative social stigma and there are quite a few people I know who are too afraid to admit it while living here.
It's great to see posts from people declaring that they are *insert choosen religion here* and to see there own words put into play as to WHY they are supportive of marriage equality.
high five to you all...
To pretend religion and/or culture doesn't play a part in this "issue" isn't going to be of any benefit.
If we as a country are going to move forward we need to know WHY people are so dead set against the idea so we can learn and grow, it's not good enough to be happy with a simple, "oh you say 'no'..okay fine - we''l let you be" - when that simple 'no' is having an impact on other people's lives.
In the previous thread I opened one of my posts saying how my DP was dead set against the 'idea' -- for him it wasn't religious, but it was cultural (as in the way he had been ranged..the general consensus of his peers and family) ...I wasn't content to let him just think that way and let it be out of 'respect' for him.. no way -- he has had his eyes opened now, to something different from his "norm".
Along with many others, I am not content to simply 'respect' a standing on something that opposes the rights of others.
If someone uses religion (not just christianity) as justification for their opinion, that is the wall that needs to be broken down.
If their reason is different (I can't think of one that has been given on BH over the last few threads) ... then THAT is the wall that needs to be broken down.
Sexuality doesn't come in boxes labelled 'gay' OR 'straight' it's not just that simple. Not that Black and White.
Ofcourse our opinions on the issue come down to culture..what our society's unwritten code of conduct is.
Last edited by FiveInTheBed; 25-03-2012 at 12:35.
The issue for me is religion should not be used like a suit of invincibility where it cannot be open to critique bc it's a religious belief. Removing what I consider is a basic human right - to marry the person you love, should be open to discussion.
I'll give this example - and I'll preface this by clearly saying I don't hold these beliefs, it's an example....
I'm an atheist. I'm very vocal in saying christian schools in their entirety should be removed as the notion of religious education offends me. When a christian person questions this and says I'm removing their basic right to educate their children in the christian faith. I say nope, we can't discuss that bc that's my beliefs as an atheist and you questioning my desire to remove your rights means you are trashing atheism.
That's how it seems from my POV...
Last edited by delirium; 25-03-2012 at 12:38.
I believe marriage was and is a religious ceremony where two souls fit together to create eternal life through procreation.
Do I think this is the definition of modern marriage? To some. Do I believe gay people should be able to get married? It all comes down to what is marriage. To me marriage will always be about unification of souls for the purpose of creating life.
Makes no difference to my life if they have the ceremony. Feel committed forever by ceremony. They can not fulfill the main purpose of soulful union and that is to procreate.
Do I regarded gay marriage as the same as my marriage to my husband? No. My husband and I fullfil the highest soulful experience by creating life.
In saying that I would not oppose law to bring in gay marriage. It wouldn't lessen what I have. It makes absolutely no difference to my life. I wouldn't regard it as the same. Ever.
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