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    Quote Originally Posted by Elijahs Mum View Post
    Ok just spent an hour with my SIL discussing iron and kids! She said at 13 months if he is eating a good amount of meat/seafood/eggs/veggies/fruits/ whole grains then no need to worry about iron as there should be plenty but as some toddlers are still getting used to food and you are worried about iron content there are a few things she recommends to her clients:

    Stay on the formula ( or breastmilk) until you think their diet is adequate ( cows milk is not a complete source of milk like bm/formula)

    Backstrap molasses is one of the purest sources of iron and can easily be added to veggies/basted in meats

    Floradix for kids is an liquid iron drops that can be added daily to a glass of water

    Iron tablet for kids can also be dissolved in water

    She said the recommendation is dairy products should not be given until at least 2 hours after a iron rich meal as it will hinder absorption ( as does caffeine and tea/coffee) and that she would never recommend milo to a client ( especially a toddler) as it will have a bad effect in his blood sugar levels and her main worry for this generation is diabetes because of all the refined sugar and simple carbohydrates they consume

    She said if a school aged child wants a glass if milo as a treat after school no worries. ( as long as his diet is otherwise healthy ) but a baby cannot burn that kind if energy, she said the iron content in milo is just a marketing ploy when it's really just chocolate milk ( which hinders iron absorption anyway!)

    Hope that helps!

    It is hard when your mum gives you advice because you generally take it but I have found a lot of her methods are outdated eg.milo and also condensed milk on the dummy (which he never took to a dummy and I would never do it and hope she never did without my knowing!!) But I am super paranoid when it comes to his nutrition as I was such a fussy eater and developed malnutrition as a child (he is definitely not a fussy eater as he scoffs whatever I put in front of him). I was originally hesitant on turning to cows milk, now I am hesitant to confuse his stomach even more going back to formula. Sometimes it seems like there is not much that isn't detrimental to their health and well-being! But thanks so much for all the advice and it will definitely be taken on board!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberleygal1 View Post
    My bub is 12mths in 2 weeks. I give him a bottle of formula before bed and he has 2 or 3 180ml bottles of long life milk through the day. The milk in the cold section of the super market is very watered down whereas long life is creamy. Bub has 3 meals of solids a day plus snacks in between so as long as they eat well I don't see a problem giving them more milk than the recommended. I personally wouldn't be giving milo though. Bub also has a lot of water throughout the day, we live in a hot climate.
    Spoke to my partner about the long life milk and he has a problem with it not being "fresh" haha he is worse than me at times! I see no problem with it though as my brother gave it to his son and he has never been sick in all his 4 little years not even a cold (lucky wee thing). Was wondering if you could explain the watered down part so I can sway him from his paranoia. After reading all the comments here about milo I wont be giving it to him anymore! And I won't be taking to much notice of my mums advice either haha although she likes to remind me that I turned out alright, everyone is different.

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    Ds is 12 months and has 2 tippy cups of cows milk a day but an extremely well balanced diet of solids. Nothing is pureed, hasn't been for months. It is really important for them to learn to bite/ chew different textures. They will cough an splutter but that's natural he's just getting used to swallowing just don't leave him alone eating.
    Milo would be a big no no for me personally, way to much sugar. I get iron into ds by iron rich foods, spinach, red meat etc. Ds has never tasted chocolate or ice cream or lollies ... There will be a time that this sugar rich food will be introduced (probably not by us lol) but i dont see the point in encouraging it when he's so happy with fruit.
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    i don't personally use long life milk but im thinking it must have preservatives to make it last?
    id check the label but if it does have preservatives in it i would stick with fresh milk personally.
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    I'm pretty sure as all milk is pasturised ( heat treated) it does not need preservatives added, I think the only difference between cold milk and UTH is that UTH milk is heated at a higher temp to make it last longer?
    The biggest problem with milk that has been pasturised is the heat pretty much takes away all the vitamins, fresh cows milk ( from the cow !) is far better but unfortunately all commercial milk by law must be pasturised ( you can get raw goats milk though !)

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    oh ok that makes sense.
    next q then why us long life creamier ? as a pp suggested?

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    Not sure why is would be creamier? ( I've never actually tried it!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberleygal1 View Post
    My bub is 12mths in 2 weeks. I give him a bottle of formula before bed and he has 2 or 3 180ml bottles of long life milk through the day. The milk in the cold section of the super market is very watered down whereas long life is creamy. Bub has 3 meals of solids a day plus snacks in between so as long as they eat well I don't see a problem giving them more milk than the recommended. I personally wouldn't be giving milo though. Bub also has a lot of water throughout the day, we live in a hot climate.
    I love the taste of long life milk I used to put it with DS' cereal until I found out that because of the intense heating processes it goes through, the protein changes so much that it's really hard to digest. What I read could be wrong but it scared me enough haha! Just thought I'd let you know.

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    Just to clarify re my thoughts on uht v pasteurized milk, firstly I grew up on a dairy farm, the good old days when we used to scoop the milk straight from the vat every morning and the milk had cream on top So I know just by comparing uht and pasteurized mithani taste that the uht is creamiest. Both milks are heated but uht is heated at a hotter temperature for a few seconds resulting in a small loss of folate, vit b12, vit c and thiamin which isn't a big deal to me as it is only a small loss. There is still the same number of calories and calcium in both types of milk though. Uht milk doesn't have any preservatives either as someone mentioned. And back in 2008 it came out that pasteurized milk is watered down with "permeate". Get a glass of uht milk and a glass of pasteurized milk and taste test the 2, you will easily taste the difference. We initially started using uht milk for when we went camping and loved the taste, it's all we use now

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    Getting back to my earlier post about goats milk being a better alternative than cows milk... (sorry, I've been busy the last couple of days and haven't been able to get back to elaborate)

    The majority of anglo-saxons are actually intolerant to cows milk but they don't realise it. The intolerance shows up as colds, ear aches, tonsilitis, bronchitis -- all those ear, nose, throat ailments. The proteins and fat globules in goats milk are different to cows milk which makes it more easily tolerated. As a child and young adult I suffered from all of the above. Since I have swapped to goats milk, my health has changed dramatically and my children, who have been weaned onto goats milk, are among the healthiest I know.
    Just chucking that out there for you to think about.


 

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