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    Thank you everyone for your helpful advice. Im really worried about our chances if we try again as we can only afford 2more attempts. I to have tried dietary changes, acupuncture and herbs to name a few and stuck to them religiously for months with no difference. Starting to wonder if donor would b our best option.. Does anyone have any advice on this?

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    Hi Capri,
    I have been advised to do CGH testing which will show us if our embies have abnormal chromosomes. I have been told that if they are all abnormal then this is a good indication that my eggs are of bad quality and IVF will not work for us using my eggs. I have also tried numerous methods to try and improve egg quality and nothing has worked. I have also had two FS tell me that there is nothing you can do to improve egg quality (however I know ladies on this forum have had success with various methods etc). For me however nothing is working so we have decided that an egg donor will be our best chance and I am happy with this decision. We have invested a lot of money into IVF which has probably never had a chance of working. I do not want to go through anymore cycles knowing that there is no chance of a BFP - it's financially and emotionally draining.

    My advice would be to ask yourself if you feel that you have exhausted all possibilities with your eggs and if you feel ok with donation. It's a very personal decision that only you and your partner can make.

    I wish you all the best
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    Thanks SS, did I read correctly that the test cost $5000? Is it something you had to insist ur fs do? Sorry for all the questions it's just a lot to take in and I feel the more I know the better I can deal with it all

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    Ask as many question as you need to. My FS actually suggested I have the testing done - he said it will give me piece of mind that I looked into all avenues. Yes it is expensive around $5000 and no rebate from Medicare. A big part of me wants to skip doing it and move straight on to donor eggs but if I do the testing then I will know for sure that egg quality is our problem. I guess knowledge is power.

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    Hi Capri

    How many IVF cycles have you had and what are your fertilisation rates like?

    Our second IVF cycle was horrible and we decided to have a break, try everything possible to improve my egg quality (I'm the biggest skeptic out there so hadn't tried anything before this) and then have one more try before going with an egg donor. We've just had our third IVF cycle and it was another disaster so we are the same as Summer Shine - we are not prepared to invest anymore money or emotions into another cycle when we know it's not going to work.

    Before you go down the egg donor path, your FS should be pretty certain that it is an egg problem - not a sperm problem. There is no point using a donor if you get the same results.

    If you are considering a donor, it might be a good time to start telling family and friends (if you haven't already) about your infertility. Let them know that next steps would be to use an egg donor. People who are interested in donating usually start asking questions on the process and if you're lucky someone will offer. Otherwise, talk to your clinic about donors. At least then you could try one more cycle with your own eggs and then if it doesn't work you know that you have a donor ready and waiting.

    It took me a while to be happy with my decision. I'm completly comfortable now because I've had seven months to think about it, I've tried everything to improve egg quality and my donor has the right attitude to donating.

    I did not do the $5,000 test and didn't know it existed. I don't think I would do it, my FS is pretty sure that the reason for my poor fertilisation rates and crappy embryos is due to my poor egg quality. For $5,000 you could pretty much do a donor cycle - if it doesn't work then it's not an egg issue

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    Rittzy I've had 2 ivf cycles both with bad results. The eggs always fertilize but as soon as we get to day 3 it slows down dramatically. By day 4 we have nothing left. First cycle I had 8 eggs, 2nd cycle only 4 and 2 of these were immature. I just feel like my fs doesn't no wot to do and this is partly y I'm thinking about donor. After both these cycles nothing different was suggested apart from some changes for DH regarding wot they think is the DNA fragmentation...I just don't understand how the results r going to b different if we do the exact same thing and I don't want to waste money if the chances of it happening arnt even there. How did everyone move forward through their cycles? Am I not being pushy enough ( I suggest things but my fs always says no)? When did u reach the point where u new that donor was the next step? We have been seeing a fs for nearly 2 years (a yr was spent doing IUI's).

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    Capri my first clinic did not want to make any changes - they just wanted me to keep going for cycles as they said it was an "odds" game. The second clinic did heaps of tests and corrected any overt problems. I thought I was in with a good chance. I knew it was over my last cycle when I got 14 eggs 9 mature 9 fertilised and only one made it to Day 5. FS agreed that it is most likely an egg quality issue and I suggested the possibility of an egg donor and he said it's good that I am thinking that way.

    I do want to get the CGH testing done to conclude for certain there are chromosome abnormalities. This will make me feel confident going into a donor cycle which may not take the first time (based on the stats). If I did get a good CGH embryo then it would make me think I can get good quality embies and maybe it is something else (natural killers cells) not causing them to implant.

    I would suggest that perhaps you get a second opinion. Cycles are financially and emotionally draining and I can understand you not wanting to continue with the same old protocol - that's how I was. A good FS will point you in the direction of egg donation if that's where they feel you are at.

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    Thanks SS I have gotten another opinion and that FS has given me a list of tests to get done and also a lap in 2weeks. Id be interested to see wot comes out of all these tests. Can I ask, I've been reading in other threads and am always interested in wot other people think regarding caffeine? I cut it out for months and didn't get a bfp..my old FS said 2 cups a day is fine so I allow myself 1 maybe 2 1/2strength coffees a day and after reading a few posts am feeling so guilty about it...wot r ur thoughts on the caffeine debate?

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    Capri good luck with your tests.
    I stopped drinking caffeine in 2010, have never drunk coffee but did drink coke. I switched to decaf coke and only have a glass or two on weekends. Not drinking it hasn't made a big difference re: egg quality.
    I think as long as your not ongoing overboard it's ok.


 

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