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    Hi everyone,

    Well I’m feeling so much better today, im so glad i had this week off to be able to just focus on me! I have such a stressful job and im not looking going back to work on Monday. Im sure my first day will be trawling through my hundreds of emails..ahhhh

    btmac - thanks heaps for all the abbreviations, it does make it bit easier, there were some that i got but the others... thank god for that cheat sheet! Regarding you trying to resist to POAS im in the same boat. im trying really hard to be positive but to also be realistic. My DH does not let me talk about having do another cycle. I think if it is BFN he is really going to be in a bad way. I think he is really focused on the money side of it. For me, its not about the money, i don't care how much it is going to cost, its about wanting a child. I think with time he will over come that. regarding PCOS i am not on any medication, when you say that part of the syndrome is to have "messy hormones" what exactly is that? I was only diagnosed with it end of last year and have not done much research on it. That would be interesting to know, because i have been on anxiety/depression medication for a number of years because of my hormones and PMS. Bob said that my PCOS isn't that bad, but i will defiantly ask Bob next time i see him!

    bellavista: That sucks about your AF, and yeah it would have been super hard getting that BFN for the very first time, but thats awesome that Bob is letting you have 2 FET! i asked for that and he said no. As i say "more bang for your buck!" good luck in April. I can't believe how quickly that it is coming around! before you know it, you will be preggers with twins!!!

    shazzymoo: i have no idea what the injection was, but it was one that went into the belly.. again, the nurse did after my transfer, and i it was to stimulate my ovaries to release more progesterone... most people get a second one, but because i was in a lot of pain they decided not to give me the second one. Thats great about you are on track for your EPU! best of luck with your follicles and i hope they full of great looking egs!

    Sunny: how did your scan and BT go? hopefully all good!

    Does anyone here have acupuncture to assist with IVF? i have been seeing Kerri Adams, and she really good and nice and specialises in IVF. I would like to know if anyone has had any personal results by having it done? does anyone also do any particular diets and exercise to assist with it too? Im really interested in doing a holistic experience to maximize my chances... even if it is only the power of positive thoughts

    its crazy how much this consumes your thoughts, i even dream about it. I went to spotlight to buy a sewing machine to start a new hobby to take my mind off the TWW, but they didn't have the one that i wanted in stock! i guess i could do that work that i brought home... but i just can't seem to get the motivation to do it!!!

    to you all!!!

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    Hi ladies

    Shazzymoo good luck with EPU For some lovely mature eggs for you.

    Kahu I had pregnyl infections at day 4 and 7. I had to mix them and inject them at home in two glass vials you have to snap the necks off they did hurt compared to the other injections.

    Btmac good luck I hope tomorrow flies for you so that you can POAS Saturday morning For a BFP

    Afm I saw dr bob today and the FN.... We both left not feeling very confident in QFG Cairns. Closing over Easter my FEt may or may not fall ob Easter depends when my next AF arrives. I then asked if my double FET fails what next when can I do a stim cycle next she said AUgust as bob is going away in June July and they aren't doing any so June 18 is the last EPU for qfg til August Then they only have a few spaces left in may or June but only can I do it if my period falls on a day they work with I.e Monday Tuesday and Wednesday holy crap. Mother nature doesn't much like being told when to start or to wait.

    So long story short we are interviewing CFC next week if we get a BFN we may change clinics to be with a more flexible clinic.

    My DH is not a Snap decision kind a guy and yet he was pretty cranky afterwards saying we should explore our other options. Also Bob and the FN have named dropped told us oh such and such people we know because of my Dh's job and sports and told us they are here for a FET tomorrow, the nurse discussed how amazing my Dh is and she wished the other guys was more motivated like my Dh... Was very unprofessional IMO

    Trying not to be rash, but also following gut feeling. Groan like this isn
    t hard enough without worrying about that stuff. Can't wait for Bali thanks for the support ladies you all rock!

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    Hi everyone,

    I hope you all had a great wet weekend!

    btmac: Thanks heaps for that website, im definatly going to look into it more with my doctor. I think i olny have a mild case. How did you go with your POAS? for a BFP!!!
    I have to do mine on friday morning. I am over analysing all of my body "pregnacy " symptoms, but im trying to be realistic too.... we shall see

    Bellavista: my shot that i had i think it might have been the pregnyl shot, the nurse said it was going to hurt, but i think i was still on a high from have the ET, but i also had valium. Thats not good at all about what happend with QFG and with all of the leave that Bob is having.. im not happy about that! My mum does a lot of the blood tests for CFC and she said that all of the women are happy there. Let us know how you go with the interview, and totally trust your gut instinic! Thats great that you have a Bali trip before your next cycle! you will be nice and relaxed and your body will will embrace those little embies!!!

    AFM: Im just hanging out until Friday morning, im trying really hard to not to do a POAS before then. It is really hard when all you want is to have children and everyone around has them or thats all you notice when you are out and about

    Anyway here is some reading, if you are interested, i bought a book from USA online this is what it stated about Aust and Cairns regarding IVF, it made me feel a little bit more positve about the whole experience:

    Australia was the home of the first IVF multiple pregnancy, donor egg pregnancy, and the first pregnancy from a frozen embryo. Australia was also a pioneer in IVF legislation. The country was the first in the world to release a national set of guidelines for legal IVF procedures. Among the other historic statute legislations Australia introduced were on the control of IVF procedures, and the protection of donor gamete pregnancies.
    While the world’s first IVF baby called Britain her home, Australia had their own IVF bundle of joy in 1980, just two years after Britain. After that, 12 of the world’s first successful IVF births took place in Melbourne! Since then, Australia has been a world leader in both IVF research and IVF activity. In 2007, over 10,000 IVF babies were born in Australia, with over 52,000 treatment cycles being performed in the country. In fact, roughly 3% of all babies born in Australia that year were a result of IVF pregnancies. In 2008, that number spiked to 5% - that means one out of every 20 babies came from a successful IVF program.
    Given the rich history of IVF in Australia, you can be sure that you’ll be in capable hands, should you choose to have your procedure done there. The friendly locals and laid-back atmosphere will help make your trip a most comfortable one.
    Among the numerous medical tourism destinations in Australia, the Cairns Fertility Centre (CFC) has to be one of the most notable. Situated near the Great Barrier Reef, Cairns has long been a popular tourist destination to begin with. With the advent of medical tourism, the area sought to reinvent itself as Australia’s main hub for cosmetic surgery and IVF procedures. The CFC is a massive undertaking in medical tourism; it is widely regarded as one of the world’s “medical resorts”, combining the allure of relatively cheaper medical procedures with 5-star accommodations and a location ideal for sightseeing and tourism.

    havea great week ladies!!!

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    BTMAC
    Congratulations - what fabulous news. So thrilled for you.

    Hi to everone else. Yes I am going mad in this rain. However, i have been internet shopping for some lovely frocks for Bali - YAY. 18 sleeps to go.

    I have made an appointment to discuss option with the CFC. Will then hav ea think whilst in bali and decide once home again.

    In the mean time I am training for fitness and to learn to run better I would like to do a half marathon happy not to if I am PG though but something to keep moving forward with a goal in mind helps me.

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    Hey everyone

    Kahu - I did some acupuncture before my first EPU and both before and after my first ET. I live too far away to travel once a week for treatment but decided on acupuncture as recommended by the practitioner in the Ville. After my second cycle was cancelled, I decided to do as much as I could to get my body in order - so I went to a naturopath who put me on a few things to straighten out my digestion. I then went to a fertility naturopath in Brisvegas when we went down for a concert in December. We spent quite a lot of money on powders and a tonic and these were working wonders! With the help of my GP I tracked my hormone levels (taken at the same time in my cycle as when BT was done in my cancelled cycle) and things were most certainly getting better! I must say that I certainly felt very good while taking them and have not felt like that since being on my current cycle regimen. I can relate with the hobby idea! I've taken up jigsaw puzzles and sudoku and have even taken out my sewing machine to do running repairs on work clothes for DH. As for Friday... Hang in there girl - be strong and resist the POAS!

    btmac - Yay for BFP! Well done and send some of that dust my way!

    Bellavista - that sucks! Big Fat BOO for Bob (BFBFB!) LOL! I think you are right to trust your gut. Good luck with your CFC visit!

    Sunny - How are you travelling?

    AFM - Had my scan today.... and FS could only find 2 follies. I was a little surprised and disappointed ( I feel so bloated). FS said in his opinion we should go for it and do EPU. While he said that there are no guarantees EPU would be successful, He reassured me that I only need one egg to get a pregnancy. When talking to the FN - she said that perhaps they may find another 1 under anaesthetic - when he can have a good look around. So I am half and half kinda balanced really... perhaps that's a good place to be....

    Hope you are all well!

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    this is just a quicky before i go to work... i Congratulations btmac!!!!! That is awesome news!!!
    I only have 2 more days until i POAS. Im a bit nervious, but im very happy that my DH is flying in this afternoon so he will be here for the test.

    YES i am SOOO over this rain! but i do like the cooler weather!
    every one have a great hump day!

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    Hi Ladies
    I will be doing a stim cycle in April with icsi and ah. This will be our 3rd attempt. After getting a bfn yesterday we were lucky enough to have a quick chat with our fs to help us prepare for the next round. I will be starting dhea when af arrives, which might be tomorrow by the feel of things. Have a review next week to decide on things.
    We started our testing and things with qfg in Cairns but my dh didn't like the doctor and the ladies at reception kept losing our info or mixing us up. We decided to try cfc and have been very happy with their assistance even if we haven't got a bfp yet. Dr Lingham is approachable about options and alternatives. At his suggestion I tried acupuncture for our last transfer which I found helpful in relaxing me too. It probably didn't help that I crashed my car on the Kuranda Range driving to the clinic for my transfer. They were wonderful when i phoned them and explained why I might be a little late. I didn't find out until after we were in recovery that they managed to juggle everyone around so i wouldn't miss out, lucky I was only 15min late for my appointment anyway. We will be going at things much more aggressively this time which I am very glad about. I wouldn't stay with any clinic that wanted to keep trying the same way again and again with no results. Cfc will even do transfers on the weekend if that is how your cycle works out, no extra fees, even on public holidays. The two ivf nurses there are so lovely and 1 has been through this exhausting process herself so she can really relate.
    If anyone is interested in catching up i live in the tablelands but I'm in cairns every wednesday. just send me a pm
    good luck Ladies

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    Shazzymoo - BFBFB Hilarious but yep that is where I am feeling right now. How did you go with dcing to go for EPU or have you had it now... bob told us that he suspected he would collect minimum 6 possibly 8 or 9 eggs with me. We got 3. Such a numbers and odds game really and I am not a gambler so it all freaks me out somewhat the little control we have over this process and outcomes. Best wishes with your EPU and I am hoping for a positive result for you.

    Kahu - and best wishes for tomorrow and you POAS.

    Amps - I am hearing such positive feedback regarding CFC. We are hoping to do a natural FET in April and if unsuccessful a Stim in May.

    We are undecided if we should continue with our Natural FET with Bob or move before then to CFC. I will disucss with CFC this option.

    I just can't get my head around the restriction with only can cycle if my period comes on a Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday my alternative is to do a down reg cycle with the pill so i fall into line with there dates and preffered days. I feel like i am putting my body under more stress that way.

    A catch sounds good I can do Wednesdays too.

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    Hi lovelies!

    Kahu - Today's the day to POAS.... how did you go? Do they do a BT too?

    Amps - Hi to you! You picked a PITA time to have a crash - you must have been relieved that you were still able to make it to your transfer and that they fit you in! My DH has family on the tablelands - next time I'm up that way I may just take you up on the offer to catch up! Good luck with April.

    Bellavista - I hear you on the 'little control' bit! When my last cycle was cancelled I went into my 'control space' - everything that I could control and know about I did. I went to a naturopath, changed my lifestyle, made a decision to stop work until the end of the current cycle and started looking for explanations for what was going wrong! Anyhows after a compulsory visit to a psychologist - she helped me realise that I have to have some level of acceptance of what will be will be. So that was kinda what made me decide to go through with the EPU.
    As for restrictions it seems to me that doing a full down reg cycle when you have two frosties waiting to go is more than you need. For your FET can you just go on the pill to control when you get af?

    AFM news - EPU went as well as could be hoped. FS got both eggs that were there. The scientist spoke to me after and said that one was a good one and the other not quite up to par. My FN rang today to say that we have 1 emby and that ET would be on day 4 (when I questioned her about not day 3 - she said the scientist was happy with the progress of the emby and that day 4 would be the go!) SO my only worry now is making sure that we can get out of Ingham before the road closes! Should be ok for now... we have actually had sunshine here so far today (touch wood)!

    Hope you are all well!
    Shazzy

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    Hi ladies…sorry, I have been MIA…been so busy of late.

    Shazzymoo– How are you feeling after EPU? Sounds like the embryologist is pretty confident that you have a good strong embie. Is transfer Monday?

    Bellavista– Have you done a natural FET before? If not, it might be worth trying something new with Bob and go on a ‘fact finding mission’ with CFC…you never know, you may not need CFC after the natural FET!! Ooh, Bali…how wonderful…get away from all this rain and it sounds like we are in for a heap of it this weekend too. Also, time away puts enough distance between all things IVF...DP and I did that a little while ago…didn’t talk about IVF, didn’t read about IVF, no IVF research, etc etc– I even stayed away from Bubhub – we just got back to what we did pre-IVF…we came back with a renewed passion for it. Did you say that QFG Cairns name drop your names to others and vice versa…if so, that is very unprofessional and would think that is unethical, if not, borderline unethical!!

    AmpsSorry to hear of your BFN, but good to see that you already have some direction for your next cycle (its great to have the opportunity for a quick chat with FS…CFC are good like that)…have you been on DHEA before? I can back up everything you say about CFC…they are just so wonderful. My very first EPU and ET was over Easter in 2010…I couldn’t believe they worked over the weekend/public holidays. The original FN is currently on maternity leave (IVF), so they have had 2 FN’s go through IVF and they just so get what we are going through. I find Dr Lingam very approachable and willing to try anything. I was finding he was taking a conservative protocol approach, however, I discussed with him that due to my age and not having time on my side, I was willing to have an aggressive approach. He really listened to me and adjusted my protocols accordingly.

    Kahu– Did you POAS today? I have my fingers crossed for you . I go to Kerry Adams for acupuncture and I love every session I have with her. Also, I friend of mine got her BFP on Tuesday and she goes to CFC and Kerry Adams too.

    btmac Congratulations on your BFP…you must be on cloud 9, but still very cautious…when can us IVFers really relax and celebrate a positive result!! How did the test go today? I was reading one of your earlier posts of all the drugs and supplements you are taking…it is typical guru Wazza…I would have been on exactly the same regime if I had cycled with him, but these donor eggs came available.

    Ok ladies….I thought I knew all the abbreviations on this forum, but what the heck is BFBFB!!

    AFM
    Somy first scan last Friday showed that my bloods were perfect, but my lining was on the thinner side of 7.1mm, but given the endometrial biopsy and scarifying, it was to be expected. I started on a 10mg estrogen pessary per day from last Sunday for the next 5 days and remain on the same doses of Progynova and Prednisolone all the way through to final blood test.

    I had another scan on Wednesday and my lining was at 7.9mm. Today I started on 2 x 400mg Progesterone pessaries a day and 1 x combination 2mg estrogen and 500mg progesterone pessary a day and start taking Cardiprin on Sunday. The dreaded pessaries….give me injections any day over pessaries!!!

    Our donor eggs were thawed today and ICSI’d with DP frozen sperm, as unfortunately he works away…I am dying to know if they all survived the thaw and fertilised. The embryologist will ring me in the morning with the fert report. I find this waiting time the most stressful.

    Transfer is all set for Monday morning with acupuncture pre and post transfer….I also have my relaxation/positive visualisation audio ready for the acupuncture sessions…yes, I will do anything for this to work!!!

    My donor egg journey:- I put my name on the donor egg list at CFC in September 2010, but at that time, I had only had one IVF cycle, so I really thought I had a lot of cycles left in me before taking the donor route.

    In September last year, after my first FET which was another BFN, Dr Lingam said that it would probably be another 12 months before donor eggs became available due to my position on the list. However, the very next month, I received a phone call to say they had donor eggs about to come out of quarantine and I was next on the list…I believe that all the ladies on the list before me were trying other things, so decided to pass on the donor eggs. The donor profile was pretty much a perfect match with me, so DP and I went ahead with the eggs. We went through a counselling session that was suggested and organised by CFC. And here we are…about to transfer on Monday, if all goes well with fertilisation.

    I have not gone into this lightly, as I started this IVF journey when I was 43-44, so I always knew that donor eggs would be a route I may have to take. I will be forever grateful to the wonderful woman that decided to go through a stimming cycle and receiving no money for doing so, to give other women the opportunity to be mothers. It is a truly beautiful, wonderful, selfless act and I can’t thank her enough. So that is my donor egg journey…it is now my turn to be a mum!

    I too would love to catch up with fellow FNQ IVFers…I work Monday to Friday but can catch up during lunch or post 4pm.
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