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    Quote Originally Posted by Justwant2beamummy View Post
    Hey guys, can you explain what you believe the Gnostic gospels are? I have heard a few different things ranging from "books that just missed out on being a part of the bible" to "fraudulent books that used gospel names to deceive people"
    Well, I think they are just as relevant and interesting as the more popular gospels. A gospel is just a story IMO.

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    Ok, so to continue discussions.... A pp mentioned a few old testament examples of how people were told to kill, etc. Eg, an eye for an eye. Well we were discussing this earlier- I believe that you cannot just read one part of the bible and not use the context of the new testament. Jesus fulfilled the law. He came to bring life and grace. His is a message of love. So instead of 'an eye for an eye', it becomes 'turn the other cheek'. So in no way does the bible encourage someone to hate or kill or anything like that. This is why its important to really know and understand the bible and the gospel message, and not just read a verse and think that it sums up the bible.

    Again, I'm interested to hear other views on this, particularly the Jewish perspectives, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misskittyfantastico View Post
    You'd be mythtaken.

    Sorry, couldn't help it.
    Very mature....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Regina Phalange View Post
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    Ok, so to continue discussions.... A pp mentioned a few old testament examples of how people were told to kill, etc. Eg, an eye for an eye. Well we were discussing this earlier- I believe that you cannot just read one part of the bible and not use the context of the new testament. Jesus fulfilled the law. He came to bring life and grace. His is a message of love. So instead of 'an eye for an eye', it becomes 'turn the other cheek'. So in no way does the bible encourage someone to hate or kill or anything like that. This is why its important to really know and understand the bible and the gospel message, and not just read a verse and think that it sums up the bible.

    Again, I'm interested to hear other views on this, particularly the Jewish perspectives, etc.
    I agree with this wholeheartedly. It's really, really hard to explain things if someone doesn't have the context of the entire scripture.

    Got so out of hand I was so hopeful after our first discussions. I totally took the bait , too. I didn't respond how i would have liked to, looking back now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justwant2beamummy View Post
    I agree with this wholeheartedly. It's really, really hard to explain things if someone doesn't have the context of the entire scripture.

    Got so out of hand I was so hopeful after our first discussions. I totally took the bait , too. I didn't respond how i would have liked to, looking back now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justwant2beamummy View Post
    Hey guys, can you explain what you believe the Gnostic gospels are? I have heard a few different things ranging from "books that just missed out on being a part of the bible" to "fraudulent books that used gospel names to deceive people"
    I haven't read them but I don't think they're necessary to our understanding of the central aspects of the Christian faith. I believe that if they were meant to be included in the Bible, God wouldn't have let them not be included.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Justwant2beamummy View Post
    I agree with this wholeheartedly. It's really, really hard to explain things if someone doesn't have the context of the entire scripture.

    Got so out of hand I was so hopeful after our first discussions. I totally took the bait , too. I didn't respond how i would have liked to, looking back now.
    Once I found myself circled by a few I stopped taking the bait. Otherwise it was a good discussion and you were all teaching me alot

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    Quote Originally Posted by maria02 View Post
    I haven't read them but I don't think they're necessary to our understanding of the central aspects of the Christian faith. I believe that if they were meant to be included in the Bible, God wouldn't have let them not be included.


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    I agree with this

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    Quote Originally Posted by maria02 View Post
    Very mature....


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    It's a classic Buffy line - and yes very immature on my part. I apologise sincerely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regina Phalange View Post
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    Ok, so to continue discussions.... A pp mentioned a few old testament examples of how people were told to kill, etc. Eg, an eye for an eye. Well we were discussing this earlier- I believe that you cannot just read one part of the bible and not use the context of the new testament. Jesus fulfilled the law. He came to bring life and grace. His is a message of love. So instead of 'an eye for an eye', it becomes 'turn the other cheek'. So in no way does the bible encourage someone to hate or kill or anything like that. This is why its important to really know and understand the bible and the gospel message, and not just read a verse and think that it sums up the bible.

    Again, I'm interested to hear other views on this, particularly the Jewish perspectives, etc.
    According to Jewish tradition this verse was never supposed to be implied literally, it was supposed to be a call for monetary compensation
    For damage done to another person

    Also you have to remember that the laws of Moses were given to an enslaved Jewish population, most who never knew a normal family life , were treated very in humanely and watched a harsh and some say immoral race of captors , so the laws seemed quite strict and penalties quite tough to make sure their new lives stayed pure( if that makes any sense!)

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