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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveInTheBed View Post
    Noah's sons 'apparently' had three sons.

    Either those sons had to have sex with their mothers - OR they did have daughters, and the daughters weren't mentioned in the Bible --- which opens up another lovely chat regarding the treatmnet of women in the bible.
    Yeah This is just getting condescending. Have you actually read the passage? Because I says they took their wives with them.

    I really wish this thread could have stayed constructive and peaceful but it's just getting rude now.

    As a woman I am absolutely fine about the position the bible has put me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveInTheBed View Post
    Noah's sons 'apparently' had three sons.

    Either those sons had to have sex with their mothers - OR they did have daughters, and the daughters weren't mentioned in the Bible --- which opens up another lovely chat regarding the treatmnet of women in the bible.
    If you don't like the bible or believe anything in it, why are you here talking about it?

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    [QUOTE=BabushkaMumma;6415154]

    To be honest and not to sound condescending - I think faith is a hard concept to understand if you don't have it.

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    How would you explain to those Ancient Egyptians I have mentioned a few times...(if you had the chance)... that the sun is not infact pushed across the sky each night by a God who takes the form of a dung beetle?

    ...or would you be happy to just accept that is what they beleive? That that is their 'faith'?

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    Those genuinely interested in talking about translation and doctrine I would love to continue chatting with you, I really enjoyed that. I'm not sure if there's a possibility of having a closed thread seeing as this forum as a whole seems incapable of having a conversation regarding religion that doesn't go sour.

    If you want to pm, Id love to speak more

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    You don't know anybody's background or what their faith has been. I was raised a catholic, went to catholic school. I'm not ignorant. I have friends who are all from different religious backgrounds, including Christian, Islamic, Hindu.

    I've travelled a lot and find places of worship/shrines etc. Fascinating.

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    As a non-religious person who enjoys reading discussions in semantics, translations, interpretations etc, I was really enjoying this thread.

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    [QUOTE=FiveInTheBed;6415174]
    Quote Originally Posted by BabushkaMumma View Post

    To be honest and not to sound condescending - I think faith is a hard concept to understand if you don't have it.

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    How would you explain to those Ancient Egyptians I have mentioned a few times...(if you had the chance)... that the sun is not infact pushed across the sky each night by a God who takes the form of a dung beetle?

    ...or would you be happy to just accept that is what they beleive? That that is their 'faith'?
    Sorry to digress OP.

    Yes, I'm happy to let the Egyptian belief slide. If they want to put faith in a dung beetle - be my guest. Their lives, their beliefs. Same applies to those who have a different belief to mine, including those who are atheists etc. I thought that was a basic of being a human? Respect the right to a belief in something..anything or anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justwant2beamummy View Post
    Yeah This is just getting condescending. Have you actually read the passage? Because I says they took their wives with them.

    I really wish this thread could have stayed constructive and peaceful but it's just getting rude now.

    As a woman I am absolutely fine about the position the bible has put me.
    ...yes - but did those wives produce only sons or daughters aswell?

    I'm not talking about you as a woman today. I'm talking about the treatment of women throughout the Bible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lily of the Nile View Post
    If you don't like the bible or believe anything in it, why are you here talking about it?
    Because it is a major part of this country and this culture.
    My kids are being told stories from it.

    And I am genuinely interested to see how and why people translate things the way they do -- becasue I live side by side these people. And many decisions made in my life time will be based on teachings from this book of books.

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    It always surprises me when people miss the irony in their behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justwant2beamummy View Post
    Those genuinely interested in talking about translation and doctrine I would love to continue chatting with you, I really enjoyed that. I'm not sure if there's a possibility of having a closed thread seeing as this forum as a whole seems incapable of having a conversation regarding religion that doesn't go sour.

    If you want to pm, Id love to speak more
    ..how very accepting of you.



 

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