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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyMummy View Post
    People usually only complain about where they're paying tax when it helps someone out who is financially lacking. I've never heard anyone say, "I can't believe my tax money is paying for this new bridge." Instead, they say, "I don't want my hard-earned tax money going towards immigants/single mothers/school fees for poor kids."

    It's very arrogant and selfish. It's always directed at hte people who are recieving help as the result of money recieved via taxes... people seem to only complain about where "their" tax money is spent when it involves someone else getting a slightly better deal at life. It's quite pathetic.
    I've thought for some time that people should have a say where their tax money is spent. I would think half the tax money should be available for the government to assign as needed, and the other half can be specified by the person paying their taxes. They wouldn't get to specify exactly how it gets spent, but they would be able to specify a broad category, such as: Health, Education, Justice, Roads, Defence, Administration, Australian Industry, Foreign Affairs, Social Support. I'm sure there is probably a half dozen other categories also, but that is all I can think of off the top of my head.

    Of course within each area, the government will decide how to spend the funds. For example, just because you distribute your taxes to Foreign Affairs doesn't mean that more will be spent on processing immigrants and assylum seekers, it might instead fund an overseas trip for a member of parliament. Likewise, money distributed to social support could just as easily be used for paying benefits as it could be for hiring private investigators to expose fraudsters.

    Therefore the dilligent taxpayer should evaluate how the government is planning to use funds in each area before deciding which area(s) to nominate for their taxes to go to. (And of course the 50% up to government discretion is to allow for the government to prop up less popular areas - such as administration costs for example.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by deville View Post
    okay ... so I don't have any kids in school yet ...

    BUT ...

    Lemme understand this - I am choosing to put my kids into private education (as the public schools in my area always make the news for bullying, fighting and low scores) - have no issue of paying for my child's education but in the meantime, my taxes pay for the education of other people's kids and they feel they don't need to contribute at all?? (And I"m referring to the people who don't want to contribute not for budgetary or any other factor purely than 'nuh - just don't wanna')

    So really with the mindset of tax payers fund education - I'll be contributing to not only MY child's education but also to someone else's who doesn't think they have to contribute at all??? Even though it's a system I won't be using ....

    I too totally understand and hope I'm not in a position where sometimes a contribution can't be made but I have to agree with the posters that 'if they can contribute - they should'.

    I hate seeing any kid missing out but to me I liken it to 'I've got no money' yet they have a cigarette hanging from their mouth. They have money - they just choose to prioritize other things over their kids.

    The reason I'm choosing for private (other than what I outlined at the beginning) is that I place a big importance on education.
    That's the way things work though. My husband pays tax that helps fund PHI grants, yet we don't have PHI. His tax goes towards govt funding to private schools yet we use the public education system. His money goes towards helping fund the first home owners grant yet we rent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily of the Nile View Post
    Who says that? Was that said in this thread? Because I don't ever hear that from anyone
    Sorry I meant to quote SassyMummy!!


    That might be true in some cases but def not the majority. I have complained before about my taxes going towards useless (imho) road improvements instead of things like increase in nurses wages, etc. I don't know anyone who would be happier about money going on infrastructure, etc rather than to help others, particularly in the higher tax bracket. I think the problem is that when people "complain" then those on the receiving end think its a complaint about them receiving anything when it's not. The problem is the government rarely tells us where the money is going, particularly when it takes money away i.e health insurance rebate and BB reduction. If they said it was going directly to improve access to excursions and books for public schools I am sure most people would be fine with it!
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    I think people absolutely should have an opinion and a voice about how and where tax dollars are utilised - whether you pay a little or a lot or no tax.

    And I completely disagree that people only care about their tax dollars when they go towards those that are 'financially lacking'. People have opinions on politician's salaries, billions being spent on sporting stadiums, millions being spent on refurbishing public offices, pollies golden tickets, cost of the national broadband network, the list goes on and on. Not just IRL....I have read all of these issues debated here on the BH. They may not be relevant in this particular thread, but to say people only care about tax dollars going to people worse off then them is just not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pina Colada View Post
    I think people absolutely should have an opinion and a voice about how and where tax dollars are utilised - whether you pay a little or a lot or no tax.

    And I completely disagree that people only care about their tax dollars when they go towards those that are 'financially lacking'. People have opinions on politician's salaries, billions being spent on sporting stadiums, millions being spent on refurbishing public offices, pollies golden tickets, cost of the national broadband network, the list goes on and on. Not just IRL....I have read all of these issues debated here on the BH. They may not be relevant in this particular thread, but to say people only care about tax dollars going to people worse off then them is just not true.
    This is what I tried to say, but didn't manage it so well!

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    I'm not hearing anyone say that a child should miss out because their parents don't pay the contribution, and as for the naming and shaming? Insensitive and brutal.
    so we're mostly furiously in agreement with each other.

    I guess I get so uptight about the puny $100 per year contribution towards the school because I know a couple who can pay and don't. Loudly.

    I don't get it. It's just like a tax that you get to choose where it goes, and they don't and won't.
    LOUDLY.

    I wish they valued their kids' school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by really old View Post
    I'm not hearing anyone say that a child should miss out because their parents don't pay the contribution, and as for the naming and shaming? Insensitive and ********.
    so we're mostly furiously in agreement with each other.

    I guess I get so uptight about the puny $100 per year contribution towards the school because I know a couple who can pay and don't. Loudly.

    I don't get it. It's just like a tax that you get to choose where it goes, and they don't and won't.
    LOUDLY.

    I wish they valued their kids' school.
    Actually the OP suggested that children should miss out on things due to non payment, so yes, it is being said.

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    I stand corrected.
    B***er me.

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    I stand corrected.
    B***er me.
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    I think the OP is aimed at the parent, not the child and not in a malice way.
    If you refuse to pay for your childs school excursion, who will pay it? Even when I was in school,excursions weren't free, so surely parents realise they have to be paid for.
    If a parent is having financial hardship I'm positive no parent or school would allow that child to miss out, I don't believe that's the suggestion in this thread?


 

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