Little update from me, it's been a long journey! After a 5th ivf ICSI cycle, I have pink lines again! Praying these ones stay with me x
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Fingers crossed for you stillhopeful x
Just thought I'd give an update.. hubby had first reversal back in June 2014 and it failed.. no sperm present.. he had 2nd reversal in August 2015... we just did our first test and he had 35 million good morphology but borderline motility. I'm hoping it doesn't decline, but we're going to bank some so we have options!
Wish us luck!
Fingers crossed, great numbers!!! Let us know how you go, hopefully things just keep getting better! Our numbers dropped dramatically so we are going down the IVF route stating next year. With doing ICSI we have enough numbers for them to pick out the best sperm so our technical reversal success has done us well
Good luck Purity Rach! That's a great turn around! Hoping you see those pink lines very soon then!
Onedaymaybebaby wish you every success with ivf xoxo
Well I hadn't updated for a while, for those who don't remember my DH had his VR in Sep 2013. Started out good numbers but declined by 12 months and both Motility and morphology were never good. Started IVF ICSI this time last year, after FIVE cycles and an early MC we are now 18 weeks pregnant! I don't feel out of the woods yet, Couldn't find a HB on Doppler last week at GP appt, but I'm still keeping positive and have a scan next week
Don't give up ladies, TTC has been the hardest struggle I've ever faced emotionally but I know it will have been worth every heartache x
We had our second with Dr Woolcott. Numbers have rose to 148 million. Still not pregnant but able to bank a sample which is good
The only thing that I isn't good is morphology which is like 2.5%? Fingers crossed it improves (or works) !
Sorry to hear things haven't worked out so far.
Do you have any answers as to why the reversal didn't work?
If it were me, i would ask the Dr if a second reversal would give a different outcome, or would the same problem that caused the first to fail arise again.
Have you looked at different ivf clinics instead? Maybe a change in treatment/medication, protocols and a new fertility specialist for the ivf/icsi may be helpful?
Are you taking any supplements like menevit and coq10 (ubiquinol) for egg quality.
Hi Ange, so sorry to hear things still haven't worked out, it's very unfair this process. Is there no sperm in the ejaculate at all? I'm guessing so as that's why you needed TESE.
I guess the question that needs to be asked is what will stop another VR closing over.
I'm going to be honest, not to be blunt or hurtful, but because I wish I had of known instead of living in false hope. I really think regardless of a second VR or not, you will need ivf. I know how nice it is to imagine conceiving naturally - but to be realistic the odds aren't in your favour. Many men (my DH included) struggle to produce enough quality sperm even a year post VR to naturally conceive. Given that your DH has already had 1 unsuccessful VR, what are the chances this time it will be different. And even still, it would have to be leaps and bounds different because then you will be a 42 year old TTC naturally with recovering/building or even decreasing sperm count.
I would seek a second opinion in the IVF route. There are some other methods like PICSI or IMSI that could prove helpful - i can't recall exactly which one uses the high powered microscope for sperm selection but it was my next step.
In the grand scheme of things, if you will most likely end up back in the ivf clinic, Id be using the 10k Dr leckich charges to throw everything at a decent ivf cycle.
My story - I sat in Dr Leckich's clinic thinking we would be successful straight away. DH had a daughter AFTER his vasectomy, and on our consult, Dr L found a sperm in the ejaculate prior to VR. I was 25 and conceived my 2 children in my first marriage from one baby dance! So we were a sure success story right? A year of ttc naturally, return of sperm only the minimum for ivf and declining plus morphology/motility issues and then another 18 months and 5 ivf ICSI cycles - we have only just welcomed our precious boy 2 weeks ago! 3 years after our VR.
Whilst I am so grateful and he was worth every heartache, year and cost (and we are in debt now and struggling) I can't say if our journey could have been different. Should we have gone straight to ivf or did the reversal help? I'm not sure, but if I knew then what I know now, I'd probably try the IVF first. Or at least a lot sooner after VR. I too was holding onto falling naturally. It took a long time to accept it wasn't going to happen.
I am so sorry that you are in this boat. I know all too well the feeling of trying VR and IVF and them both not working! And both sides will try to convince you that their procedure is the way to go. But factoring in age and previous results, I would be sticking to ivf but with a different approach as you may just end up in their clinic anyway another 10k down and a year older.
I wish you all the best in whatever decision you make and hope success comes soon. Xoxo
I'm so sorry things haven't worked out as planned @ange111 I'm with @StillHopeful, I wouldn't waste more time and energy on another VR but that's just my personal feeling.
DF had a VR in 2014 and while it was a technical success, those swimmers just weren't swimming! We needed help to get pregnant!
We did our first round of ICSI and transferred a 5 day blastocyst on May 7th and we are now cautiously excited to have a 6wk 4d peanut on board. I know we are incredibly lucky given it was our first go, there are so many who don't have that success and I count myself grateful everyday, but please don't give up on IVF...it may take time but the odds are it will happen eventually and probably quicker than you going through a second VR.
I hope you can find answers soon that works best for you and your hubby, wishing you all the very best xx
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