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    Quote Originally Posted by brooke29579 View Post
    Well well well!! To say I am mad would be an understatement. I finally got a copy of the first SA today, previously we had telephone confirmation from Dr Woolcott, though all that was discussed was the count, no mention of the other results. His words exactly "the next test I expect you to be doing is a pregnancy test" After 2 written requests for his results to be sent to our doctor I can now see that motility and morphology were done...
    13 million
    5% motility
    60% abnormal forms, mostly head defects.
    Findings- oligospermia, reduced motility, abnormal morphology, suggest repeat to confirm.
    I'm mad at Dr Woolcott for not discussing all results with OH, I'm mad at Dr Woolcotts rooms for making it so difficult to get a hard copy of the results, and mostly mad at myself for ignoring my gut feeling and not pushing harder to follow it up!
    Brooke we had the same thing happen through Dr Leckich!

    3 times he told us only numbers, 5mil, 65mil, 25mil, he constantly gave us false hope, Starting the results call with "is she up the duff yet?" ETC full knowing the results were oligospermia. That made me think it was me and I had extensive tests, MRIs, etc. It took multiple requests to finally get copies of the 3 tests (which I got a year past VR by tricking them saying it's because I have FIs, I don't!).
    I think maybe it's their training to act as if those results are going to get you pregnant, so you're more keen to Dtd a lot as they know this improves count and keeps you keen.

    In all fairness, I was added to a page that was created early in this thread, half the girls got PG, one had a relationship breakdown and the other still TTC more than 2 years after VR with Dr Lekich. So with those 3 girls pregnant, there were some success. But not 80% like I was told! Not even 50 %. Maybe 30%.

    Even though I feel tricked, I still feel Dr Lekich and Dr Woolcott are the best at what they do, but I believe the success rates should be honest. Measured on pregnancies, not return of sperm with little to no mobility! And honesty about just how long the process actually takes, and how many scar over. But then, if that was said, lost people would choose their services would they.

    All in all now that's it done, I'm glad hubby is reversed. I'm glad he didn't have to go through MTESE (yet!) for our round of IVF just passed. But I wish I knew all this 2 years ago. Could have helped with the desperate roller coaster I was on month after month and despair at the 34 pregnancy announcements on my facebook (yes, I made a list 😭) in that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felicia View Post
    Ladies can I ask who was doctor Woollcott patience and who was de lechich and how many had no result and how many scarred over.... This is just seeing like so many women it's happening to !!!
    Im2 yes in and know the emotional roller coaster
    I feel abit jipped and lied to ...
    Felicia I feel extremely jipped and lied too also! X

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    I'm so sorry to all you ladies with what you've been through! I agree, honesty is the key! Giving false hope to couples is not the way to go! I can only hope that we are one of the lucky ones! But we are still early days yet, approx 3 weeks till our first SA, we will be 12 weeks post op. Fingers crossed!! While I am trying to remain very open minded, even convincing myself it quite possibly hasn't worked, I know we (more so DF as he feels do guilty for having had the vasectomy to start with) will find it really hard to deal with an "unsuccessful" verdict!

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    You are so right... seems like every man and his dog are pregnant! I wish you the best of luck. It's a terrible game that not many people understand unfortunately. It's very lonely.

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    I am annoyed because we had no indication of numbers or results. It is hard to do things over the phone (Dr Woolcott) as we are in Sydney. I'm seriously thinking of taking the results of the tests and operation reports and seeking a 2nd opinion! Who is Dr Lekich? Where is he based?

    I think above all though. We have to remember that the "successes" with VR probably aren't spending their time on forums about VR online. So we won't get too many good outcomes here. Hey.... trying to be hopeful of results! Congrats to those that see a glimmerI of hope x

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    Onedaymaybebaby you're still in with a very real chance! Ask for a copy of the SA for your records. And expect the 6 month SA to be much better x
    All the best!

    Purityrach Dr leckich is from Metrocentre on the Gold Coast. He was trained by the professor that invented the microsurgery technique. He could very well be the best at what he does, reality is they are trying to undo something that was a permanent solution. The chance aren't what they tell you and this is where the problem lies with me. I almost get more upset hearing people getting Vs then pregnancy announcements.

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    Ok I've got over the shock and calmed down a little. I'm not angry over our results, the tubes are open (or were... Hopefully still!) so from a VR point of view it's a success, I'm just angry at the lack of information, and very effing important information! To not discuss anything other than the count, when the lab technician clearly states "further testing to confirm" and the whole not sending the results to our GP... It's just not good enough. And the whole "the next test you'll take is a pregnancy test" well... They should not be using those terms when we all know it just isn't that simple.

    I feel this process would have been a lot less stressful had we both known there were other issues at play, I wouldn't have driven myself crazy with hope and so many blooding POAS, and we would have been at the FS months ago!

    Bring on Tuesday the 16th and our onslaught of tests so we can make a plan forward!

    Love to you all girls, these sure are trying times xxx

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    So very sorry to hear that some of you have been through a tough time. Like it's not hard enough already.
    Thoughts go out to you all and hopefully all can come out with the results that we want xx

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    Ladies this is the key to the discussion
    I feel like information has been withheld and yes my husband has a fantastic SA c but there not going anywhere but circles ...or without a tail or head ....I can not conceieve like that
    and telling me to DTD every other day and the emotional roller coaster it has been for 2 yrs has been indescribable... Heart wrenching
    mths waiting the hope the poas ....
    VR needs to be real outcomes real stories and real SA results
    and to be honest I'll be seeing dr leich (for dh scan to see if they have scarred over) next month and I think I need to confront him about this and he hasn't had to live inside my body or mind for the last 2 yrs and have this hope of seeing 2 lines
    it's false hope if the sperm can't go anywhere

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    Totally agree with you, and I'm feeling exactly the same way. Misled and deceived...


 

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