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    Default Dental tips for toddler to 4yr old

    Hey all

    Was devastated the other day to discover that Mr 4 has a cavity on his back molar.

    It wasn't something I expected as my boys rarely get lollies, no juice, I know that dried fruit is as bad as lollies and we brushed every night ( I figured with their diet that would be sufficient)

    Immediately got him into a dentist to be told it would prob be pulled in theatre and he didn't even look at tooth, just refered him to the pede dentist.

    He said it was prob because of the lack of fluride in the water & suggested not rinsing toothpaste, letting the fluride sit on the cavity to slow it down.

    So when I was getting those little flosser sticks I saw kids mouthwash one by oral b ( big teeth) the other by listerene.

    Oral b said age 6 plus , sugar & alcohol free, mild taste.

    Listerene said age 7 plus & said alcohol free.berry flavor. But I read ingredients and it had sucrose?!? Seriously sugar in a kids dental product!!!

    So brought oral b even though age said 6, we have been spitting toothpaste for a while and I was confident he wouldn't swallow it ( which is why I think it had age restrictions on it)
    Well I got him to rinse and he cried it was that minty. I tried it & it burnt my tounge!!! Hubby uses colgate mw and he said it wasn't as strong as his but still pretty strong.

    Have tried just dipping toothbrush to put it just on tooth but still to burny for him. Thinking about diluting but then will fluride be enough?

    Our routine is brush twice a day & floss once a day with I hope a fluride rinse if I can find one after every brush.

    Any ideas? I want to avoid having it removed as I have heard it effects how his secondary tooth will come through.




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    Hi there,
    We had the same sort of problems with my son (who also spent his baby/toddlerhood in a area where the water is not flourinated)...had a low sugar diet etc etc, but still he developed cavities in his back teeth. Some of the problem was that he also had poor enamel on his teeth.

    Anyway, we also were referred to a pediatric dentist and ended up having 3 crowns (!!) put on his teeth, under general anesthetic, when he was 3. They also sealed his teeth to prevent further problems.

    If the cavity is not bad they should be able to just do fillings and seal the teeth to prevent further damage. My understanding is that once there is an existing cavity it needs to be fixed and sealed or it will just get worse and may result in tooth loss. But if caught in time should be fine until the adult teeth come through.

    We went to the Pediatric Dentist in Bicton (Perth) and they were excellent. Is he going to pre-priamary yet? If he is, the school dentsit should be able to see him, though if he needs work under anesthetic it will need to be done privately through a pediatic specialist.

    Hope that helps.

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    I spent my early childhood in QLD and have suffered for it my whole life with terrible teeth as a result.

    I think it would be a bit extreme to pull the tooth straight away? I had 7 fillings done under general when I was 3 years old, and this was back in 1986 so surely things have come a long way... Unless the tooth is broken beyond repair I would be questioning having it pulled. Sure, it's a baby tooth but they are place holders for adult teeth. They do serve a long term purpose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Zipper View Post
    I spent my early childhood in QLD and have suffered for it my whole life with terrible teeth as a result.

    I think it would be a bit extreme to pull the tooth straight away? I had 7 fillings done under general when I was 3 years old, and this was back in 1986 so surely things have come a long way... Unless the tooth is broken beyond repair I would be questioning having it pulled. Sure, it's a baby tooth but they are place holders for adult teeth. They do serve a long term purpose!
    Agree with this ^

    I am a dental nurse (was before kids) and we put them on happy gas and managed rather well to fill the tooth. Some cases GA is needed. You can get chewable fluoride tablets. You don't want to have to much fluoride either do be careful. Honestly I am not to keen on what ur dentist said. Seems rather aggressive for a child that has very vigilant parents with or without fluoride. See the specialist be should be able to help you. A second opinion is what I would be looking for.

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    Coop got his back molar filled with a pink filling so other dentist know its not complete as he will need a local to get it fixed up. He had a massive hole in it. We are going to attempt one more time as he will have to go to theatre to get it fixed up. They dont want to pull it even though its only a baby tooth.

    The pink filling they did didnt hurt at all. Was very quick to do. It isnt a full solution to the problem but no more problems happening atm.

    The dentist is a cery scary thing. Once i get PHI i am going to go private and get it fixed up instead of going public for him.

    Watching a dvd today it was also suggested not to rinse out all the toothpaste either but to leave a little in there.

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    My LO had a similar problem and needed a crown and to have his other back molars filled under a general.

    The pead dentist also advised that repeated doses of antibiotics, prem birth and reflux - all of which he had could have contributed.

    Id go to the pead dentist and get professional advise - sounds like you are ding all the other things right!

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    Another Dental nurse here sounds like u are doing everything u can in terms of tooth brushing. And u can floss his teeth? Wow what a great job! Try to make sure he has nothing else to eat or drink after brushing (other than water) so there is nothing feeding the bacteria that create the holes in teeth.
    I honestly would steer clear of mouth wash especially being so young. There is really no point even for adults. There is an excellent product high in fluoride and other things really good for teeth called tooth mousse. U can only get it from a dentist and may be worth asking about. It can be rubbed on his teeth and left over night and comes in a few pleasant flavors. If u are unable to get this product tooth paste rubbed onto teeth will do a similar job but as with a previous post excessive fluoride can also be problematic.
    I find it quite odd that the dentist didn't even bother to attempt to look in his mouth! Children can be uncooperative at the dentist but to not even try?! I would perhaps get a second opinion and insist they at least have a look. Paediatric specialists (most) are great with kids but are extremely expensive so it may be worth a second opinion. Good luck and try not to stress u are doing a fantastic job

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    My DS1 have been to the dentist now two times and he is 4.5.

    He also gave me floride tablets.

    I was told to leave the toothpaste in the mouth to instead of rinsing it all out.

    Maybe get another opinion if you are now completely satisfied with the dentists approach. Him not even looking in your childs mouth is a bit of a worry.

    I am sure you are doing the best job possible I know the struggle to brush your kids teeth sometimes.

    Try not to stress.


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    We recently have done the dentist trip too and came away devastated. We too brush morning and night and older one uses kids mouthwash, but walked away booking appt for 4 fillings and 4 sealers (preventers). Small fortune! The dentist put us onto tooth moose with my ds rubs on his teeth and gums right b4 bed and he doesn't mind it. He said it is due to no fluoride in the water, as we are on tank water for drinking. Don't worry your not alone.


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    Thanks guys, that's some really helpful feedback!! I think I'll try and get into pede dentist in Bunbury. And argue strongly for caps.

    Do they ever do the sedation for kids? I hate having my teeth done so if I need any fillings ect I pay extra for the sedation ( a doctor comes & puts a bung in and apparently you can still follow instructions ect but I never remember a thing)
    I thought this might have been an option?

    With private we are covered for dental but not hospital so I'm assuming it will cover the pede dentist. How does it work with general anesthetic & hospital? Would I have to get hospital cover?

    And I am a little annoyed they gave me an appointment. I said he was 4 and they booked it in and took my money.

    Well better sort out our Phealth & get on that waiting list




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