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    Default Can you fluke becoming a teacher?

    Yes weird question. I have this friend who is just such a .. Ditz .. I mean all through high school it was just known she wasn't very bright. She failed everything all the time. I think she had some learning problems. It was suggested she leave school in year 11 and go to tafe because even with massive amounts of extra tuition she never passed even basic subjects like senior English. She had really bad grammar and spelling despite having a dad who was a head figure in private education (won't say what here).. She was always okay at IT and went on to do something at tafe, a certificate 3 or something.. Next her dad helped her get into a private uni which doesn't require a tertiary entrance score and then she did 4 years of study and is a bloody high school teacher in a private school.. I understand people mature and develop intelligence as they age.. But she really doesn't seem to have done that.. She still spells everything wrong and just seems to lack basic common knowledge about everything.. Like for example she didn't know what the holocaust was, she doesn't know anything about current affairs, she told me she votes liberal because her dad told her they support unions..wtf? She really lacks any personal opinions about anything or personal ambition but seems to be lucky to have been born into an intelligent and well off family and therefore looks down her nose at everyone else. The other night she was putting down truck drivers for being uneducated and so well paid.. I told her my childrens dad is a truck driver and isn't well paid.. Oh really.. Yeah but he is still probably paid too much considering what he does..0she is just so odd and it scares me that she is moulding the minds of young people lol.. Is it possible that she really is just a complete idiot who somehow got through uni or is she really smart and I just don't get to see it?

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    I've met a couple and thought HOW?? I had dealings with one this morning after a run in with him last week. I also know one who is a very nice person and was pretty much walked through everything. She did childcare at tafe then a teacher aide course, which cut a fair chunk off her teaching degree. She isn't overly bright. She only taught for a year, then got out to become a truck driver.

    Also my SIL is a teacher with very poor English skills. She is a sports teacher, though, not a classroom teacher.

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    see I don't understand. I have so many friends who worked so damn hard and are so intelligent who are school teachers now. Both primary and secondary and she seems to have just breezed through with so little intelligence and I don't get it?! Its like at times I just wonder if the other teachers secretly wonder how she got through. The other day she actually argued the point with me that RSI stands for wrist strange injury. And I was like no wrist starts with a w. And she had to look it up before she would believe me.. How? I should say she isn't really a close friend because she says a lot of really insulting things and I'm kind of sick of her, she lacks any emotional intelligence too, and says really insensitive things. She keeps referring to my baby as an it. She is 8 months old

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    I don't think you can but then I worked my butt off to get decent grades in my course thinking it would make a difference. However, it actually means nothing to the department because as long as you passed then they give you an employee number and if your lucky you get a placement (or like me get stuck doing relief until someone leaves a space for you to get an FTC). So ultimately grades mean nothing, it's more about who you know and how you relate to the children and whether you will produce the results the admin team wants in teaching.

    TBH I have known quite a few people who weren't street smart or generally smart but were book smart and could do what was required to get through uni.

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    Spell check probably did a lot of the work for her, and as they say, 'Ps still get degrees'.
    It's not too hard to rephrase some quotes, sum up what the quotes are saying, rephrase some stuff from the lecture notes and/or text book, copy how to reference off the 'net, and run the lot through a spell checker to get a P.

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    Assuming her dad just helped her get into uni, I am guessing she must have passed the subjects herself?!?! Although obviously could have been helped for assignments, etc. She must have sat exams though?!?!

    She certainly sounds like she is frustrating you. But, I would be careful equating learning difficulties to a lack of intelligence. The traditional definitions of learning difficulties/disabilities generally include a caviat that they are "unexpected" and occur in the presence of adequate intelligence levels (though this requirement has been questioned within the literature). People who experience academic difficulties at school can go on and be successful in a whole range of fields.

    What subjects does she teach?!

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    ^ Teaching doesn't have that many exams. Of my 32 units only 6 or so have exams. I'm going back into second year, I have 22 units left, but only 2 have exams. I'm guessing her dad helped her with assignments too, and it's also not hard to cram for exams.

    ETA - Sajimum, I have a learning difficulty, and my IQ is above average. (Not that IQ is an accurate indicator of intelligence, but that's a different thread/student teacher rant )
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    No I don't think her uni does many exams at all and she didn't do any for high school. She teaches IT and religion. I don't take issue with the fact that someone with learning difficulties, with the right assistance such as a longer exam period could do anything. What I mean is that she actually isn't intelligent. She just seems to lack any knowledge of anything besides perhaps IT. She doesn't understand the world, she doesn't know how to speak to people..she just says things which are unthinkable such as "I don't see why slavery was a bad thing." and then when I explained slavery to her she said "but basically they got free food and board right?" I know when she did her prac that she was constantly under scrutiny for classroom management but she did still pass. I guess perhaps she has some book smarts I have never realised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berrie View Post
    ^ Teaching doesn't have that many exams. Of my 32 units only 6 or so have exams. I'm going back into second year, I have 22 units left, but only 2 have exams. I'm guessing her dad helped her with assignments too, and it's also not hard to cram for exams.
    Fair enough - I don't know much about the structure of teaching courses. I think I just assumed all degrees have lots of exams for some reason (probably personal experience with my degree)! The lack of exams might have made it easier for her to get some help if she needed it.

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    Maybe she was just motivated to learn what she needed to to pass Uni?

    There are many stupid people out there with silly opinions, but the blessing is that she teaches high school so they will already see through her silliness ie the holocaust


 
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