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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    We don't struggle and I never said that we did. Of course our combined salaries are more than enough to live on. But we all have the same costs when it comes to healthcare and child rearing. We are citizens too and it would be nice to get a tiny something back for those two things. I don't think we should all get the same. As I said, I think it's fair to support those who need it. But I'm sure we all know people who don't actually need it, but receive various benefits anyway due to their personal choices.
    But the thing is you don't need it. Why would you want money from the gov when you don't need it. It's just bizarre to me.
    Im sure you have worked hard for your money and still do. Be grateful for what you have you are blessed. Many many people have degrees and work and will not reach that income. Enjoy it but Im sorry I don't understand your thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janesmum123 View Post
    Ok with ALL due respect do you really think when you are over $166k you should be getting gov help? Come on really? That a huge amount. I'm sorry maybe I am an uneducated fool but I just can not see how one would struggle on such an income.
    But that doesn't matter. They may not be empoverished but why does that mean they should pay a fortune for health care? I would like to live in a system where every single person regardless of a high or low income could access free or almost free quality health care, but the option for private health insurance was not so out of reach either.. I am a low income earner but I am tired of hearing the argument on bubhub that higher tax payers should shut up and stop complaining

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janesmum123 View Post
    But the thing is you don't need it. Why would you want money from the gov when you don't need it. It's just bizarre to me.
    Im sure you have worked hard for your money and still do. Be grateful for what you have you are blessed. Many many people have degrees and work and will not reach that income. Enjoy it but Im sorry I don't understand your thinking.


    I totally agree. I cannot read any more, it hurts my brain cells. (not to single anyone out - just the poor me comments about being on high incomes, I can no longer tolerate it).

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    There's a difference between struggling because you've chosen a certain lifestyle and actually struggling. It's possible for people on 166K to be in the former category, we are just under that amount and while we don't struggle, we do have to be very careful with our money. We chose to take on a relatively high mortgage in an area we wanted to live in. I don't expect anyone to give me a handout because of that, that's our choice. It makes me feel quite ill to hear people complain that they don't get handouts from the government when they have more than enough already. Take some personal responsibility.

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    The Government already take 40% of my income, let's not forget that. I'd be happy with a few rebates so that amount works out less, rather than them giving me anything. I'm not talking about getting any sort of income from Centrelink or such like. It's a rebate that has been around since I've lived here that is now being removed/reduced.

    Anyway I will bow out now. I'm not the only one with this view but appear to being singled out and I'm not interested in an argument. It's just how I feel in response to a post that was made.

    I'm sure that for the most part those who it doesn't affect/will benefit from it will think it's a great thing, and those who it does affect won't. No big surprises there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bumMum View Post
    But that doesn't matter. They may not be empoverished but why does that mean they should pay a fortune for health care? I would like to live in a system where every single person regardless of a high or low income could access free or almost free quality health care, but the option for private health insurance was not so out of reach either.. I am a low income earner but I am tired of hearing the argument on bubhub that higher tax payers should shut up and stop complaining

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    Of course I agree that health care should be for all. And I also believe that every Australia no matter what their status should have access to the same care.

    However I still do not understand the thinking of "well they get cuts/rebates and I don't" debate. To be free of gov help is a blessing not a burden. I can not even imagine having that income and saying "it's not fair".

    But hey that's just my POV each to their own.

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    It starts to get reduced at 80k or so for singles, 163k for couples but doesn't cut out entirely until 129k for singles and 280k for couples.

    You still get some rebate up to 280k for couples/families. If you're earning 280k as a family you absolutely do not need govt financial assistance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janesmum123 View Post
    But the thing is you don't need it. Why would you want money from the gov when you don't need it. It's just bizarre to me.
    Im sure you have worked hard for your money and still do. Be grateful for what you have you are blessed. Many many people have degrees and work and will not reach that income. Enjoy it but Im sorry I don't understand your thinking.
    Should they be given random money they don't need? No.. But why shouldn't they benefit from childcare and health care at a reasonable price? Because they have chosen to work and earn money.. Such an odd attitude.. This attitude is the reason why many people in this country give up striving to earn more, because the hidden costs of earning more are truly there, so its easier just not to.. You would be surprised how many families and singles try to manage their finances so they can not earn too much but earn "just enough". I remember doing the maths on returning to work and using childcare for two kids and its just too much. Of course I earn nowhere near 166 k a year or even 66k a year, but I don't begrudge anyone more affordable services that help their family

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    Quote Originally Posted by bumMum View Post
    But that doesn't matter. They may not be empoverished but why does that mean they should pay a fortune for health care? I would like to live in a system where every single person regardless of a high or low income could access free or almost free quality health care, but the option for private health insurance was not so out of reach either.. I am a low income earner but I am tired of hearing the argument on bubhub that higher tax payers should shut up and stop complaining

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    But for everyone to get free quality health care, we would ALL be paying more tax, especially high income earners, so they would just complain about that instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    The Government already take 40% of my income, let's not forget that.
    If you're referring to PAYG, it should be 40% of some of your income.

    I am sorry you feel ganged up on, I can see why you would!


    You are definitely not the only one with these opinions, just the only one brave enough to contribute I guess!

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