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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    I agree. And I think what executives ad CEOs get is outrageous.
    I'm glad you do.

    My aunt would argue that he studied and worked hard to afford them their lifestyle, but that doesn't excuse the giant wage gap. She bemoans high taxes constantly despite never having worked a day in her life, it's disgusting, especially as my mother (degree in horticulture and diploma in landscape design) was making $10.50/hour before tax at the time.

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    I'm thinking I'm not the only one outraged that health insurance will be means tested.
    Health insurance isn't being means tested, the eligibility to receive the 30% rebate is. From what I read in the paper yesterday, the rebate will administered as per a sliding scale and, TBH, I think how the proposition was put is fair.

    If families on $166K cannot afford to pay an extra $1K per year then there's something amiss in their budgeting skills IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlissedOut View Post
    You're a lefty and you're supportive of huge wage gaps? Bizarre.
    I'm really not sure where you got this impression from what I said. But to entertain it for a moment -- there are much better ways to remedy pay gaps than through the tax system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caviar View Post
    Health insurance isn't being means tested, the eligibility to receive the 30% rebate is. From what I read in the paper yesterday, the rebate will administered as per a sliding scale and, TBH, I think how the proposition was put is fair.

    If families on $166K cannot afford to pay an extra $1K per year then there's something amiss in their budgeting skills IMHO.
    Here we go once again and again I will say.... We earn over $165k a year
    and there is nothing wrong with our budgeting skills but an extra $1k a year will hurt! People shouldn't assume that higher income earners that whinge about paying extra do so because they should be able to afford it or live beyond their means. We have mortgages, car repayments like anyone else, we pay more tax and full price for daycare fees etc not to mention in our situation inparticular have had to pay for multiple cycles of ivf and medical expenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    I agree. And I think what executives ad CEOs get is outrageous.
    I used to think that, but not now that I realize just how much work/time/sacrafice is often involved. Not sure I'd be willing to do it!

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    So a rebate gets cut that affects a group of the population, and they should just put up and shut up. Have no opinion on government policy and have other people tell them how much should or should not be enough for them to live on.

    Otherwise it is just whinging and whining really.

    Oh but wait, that only applies if the cut affects middle and high income earners though.

    The double standards are astounding.

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    All I can say is I completely agree with Mikey Robbins on this one (q&a the other night) it is disgusting that some on $40k a year was getting the same rebate as someone on $400k! sure if your a family on $166k with loads of debt and outgoings it may be a struggle but can you honestly say that you deserve the help as much a family living on $40k?
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    Here we go once again and again I will say.... We earn over $165k a year
    and there is nothing wrong with our budgeting skills but an extra $1k a year will hurt! People shouldn't assume that higher income earners that whinge about paying extra do so because they should be able to afford it or live beyond their means. We have mortgages, car repayments like anyone else, we pay more tax and full price for daycare fees etc not to mention in our situation inparticular have had to pay for multiple cycles of ivf and medical expenses.
    Kimberley, I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to the rate in the table which states that families on $166K will be hit.

    And yes, I do believe that if $1K hurts at that rate then something is amiss.
    People shouldn't assume that earning $166K means one can sustain more than one mortgage, more than one car and the rest that comes with a lifestyle of our choosing. Simply put, if you can't afford it you either have to forego what you have or earn extra. This is basic economics and pertains to what we value and where we put that value, not what the government is proposing. I don't expect society to sustain my lifestyle, $166K a year is more than enough to sustain it comfortably. Given what I already get re healthcare as an Australian citizen, I won't have a problem paying the extra grand as part of my annual budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberleygal1 View Post
    Here we go once again and again I will say.... We earn over $165k a year
    and there is nothing wrong with our budgeting skills but an extra $1k a year will hurt! People shouldn't assume that higher income earners that whinge about paying extra do so because they should be able to afford it or live beyond their means. We have mortgages, car repayments like anyone else, we pay more tax and full price for daycare fees etc not to mention in our situation inparticular have had to pay for multiple cycles of ivf and medical expenses.
    This is going around in circles.. But anyway..

    You CHOOSE to have mortgages and car repayments. You chose the house you did, and being that it's plural I'm assuming (always dangerous) that you have investment property/ies as well. You CHOSE the type of car you have. Those debts are of your own choosing. Yes, you should be able to spend your money as you please, but it it's making 1K a year that difficult perhaps you should have chosen something more within your means.

    My husband earns $50K. We own our cars outright, we CHOSE a car within our means. Yes, it's squishy for a family of 5, but we don't need bells and whistles.

    But I know this can be said a million times and it just won't sink in. Maybe you should live on $50K for a year and see how lucky you really are. Or maybe we should keep giving out the 30% rebate to those who really don't need it and take money away from something else. What would you prefer..hospitals, education?

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