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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonky Donkey View Post
    There are enough fees and taxes.

    More power to the CSA to make deadbeats pay the correct amount. That's all that is needed.
    Yes this. That's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemyfam View Post
    The fee could be passed to the paying parent if the reason they have to be used is because they wont pay which seems mostly why it happens, if custody parent just refuses to try to work it out and uses them then maybe the fee goes to them that would make the parents be reasonable and work together more I think
    HA! Sorry you do make me laugh, what dead beat parent that doesn't pay is not to blame it all on the custody parent? If they're not paying in the first place implementing a fee sure as hell won't make them, and who decides who's fault it is?

    They need to work out a higher base rate for what it does cost to raise a child, being relevant to location and needs of the child and THEN on top of that add for what the paying parent owes.

    CSA should be paid directly to the custody parent and the paying parent then pays their 'bill' to CSA, the government can sure as cope without more than a single mum and they are also a lot better at collecting monies owed.

    So much more I could add but hate typing on my phone, just had to comment on this ridiculous post above haha.

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    I disagree with a base rate, and I disagree with fees. My dd's father pays nothing as he has a nil income, but I still go through csa because that way they re-assess and I can show c'link I have made the effort to collect. Should I now have to pay a fee, or does he? Would be sucky if he had to pay a fee to the govt when he is unable to pay cs for his chile. The minimum should be more like $20/week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singlemumma82 View Post
    HA! Sorry you do make me laugh, what dead beat parent that doesn't pay is not to blame it all on the custody parent? If they're not paying in the first place implementing a fee sure as hell won't make them, and who decides who's fault it is?

    They need to work out a higher base rate for what it does cost to raise a child, being relevant to location and needs of the child and THEN on top of that add for what the paying parent owes.

    CSA should be paid directly to the custody parent and the paying parent then pays their 'bill' to CSA, the government can sure as cope without more than a single mum and they are also a lot better at collecting monies owed.

    So much more I could add but hate typing on my phone, just had to comment on this ridiculous post above haha.
    Actually i know of one, she turned a guy in because she wanted to run and not have to deal with him no other reason he was even paying what she wanted while pregnant, bought what she wanted during pregnancy so in her case she would get the fee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemyfam View Post
    Actually i know of one, she turned a guy in because she wanted to run and not have to deal with him no other reason he was even paying what she wanted while pregnant, bought what she wanted during pregnancy so in her case she would get the fee
    I'm not saying there aren't people like that out there, I'm saying it's a case of his word against hers and if shes choosing not to receive it then let it bank up, take the stupid fee out of that, and then it gets given to the child when they turn 18.

    But as I said, who decides who's telling the truth? And how many people go begging to pay money for someone they can't see? Wouldn't they prefer that money be spent in legal assistance to get custody?

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    Ok.. Thanks share a book.

    The only reason I agree with a base rate is cos I think it would be above the minimum amount a lot of custodial parents receive. And CS needs to be more in line with what children actually cost to raise rather than dependent on someone's income. I dont think it is fair at all that some children miss out because the non custodial parent is a dead beat or avoids payment or is on a income support pension. It should be that every child is entitled to x amount of financial support.

    Like Sassy though - I will not push the father of my children to pay (beyond collecting through CSA and he doesnt pay at all) because I would sacrifice ever cent of child support to stay away from my children. The father of my older two would act in a similarly vindictive way.

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    There needs to be a separation so that it is not money going effectively directly from one parent to the other. This will reduce animosity.

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    Oh and there definitely needs to be more severe penalties for avoiding child support.

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    There needs to be a shift in mentality from 'I won't pay because I don't get to see my child enough' to 'I will pay because this is my child I am responsible for' then the job of the csa would be a lot easier.

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    I think someone on bubhub suggested in the past that CSA should pay the child support amount to the custodial parent out of government funds, and then chase the paying parent for the money as a debt to the government, not as a debt to the custodial parent. I think this is a brilliant idea for a few reasons:

    1. children will not suffer just because they happen to be unlucky enough to have a deadbeat dad.

    2. You can be damned sure the government will start pulling out all the stops to chase non-payers once the debt is owed to them (for example, for arrears over $5,000 they would obtain a judgment and then issue a bankruptcy notice. For those who are running businesses, in high flying jobs or have significant assets, the threat of bankruptcy will make them pay quick smart). Just look at how the tax office goes after people, and people who have centrelink debts...

    3. The wrath of taxpayers *****ing about "my taxes" supporting kids of single parents will finally be directed at the non-paying deadbeat dad, rather than the struggling single mum who is doing her best to provide for her kids.

    Brilliant.
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