Hahaha I can't believe SCUM manifesto was used as an example of a feminist. Come on.
I'm coming to the game a bit late (and not quoting relevant points).
But in terms of, a woman not being a feminist if she's not financially independent - thats hogwash. I can have the full belief that women have the right to be equal to men, and financially independent, even if i was unable to reach that goal for myself at present. (just speaking generally - not going into my own personal situation at all).
So just because a woman is in a domestic violence situation, means she cannot believe that all women have the right to live free from violence?
Yes, living by our ideals and beliefs is preferably - but just because we don't always manage, doesn't mean our ideals and beliefs aren't ours!
[and yes i believe that women can make the choice to be SAHM/homemakers and do most of the work around the house - but i also know that its a rare household where things are split 50/50]
I have no issue with the "feminism" label, and it is one I proudly use to describe myself, too. As has been said previously, the promotion of the rights of the woman as "feminism" rather than "equality" is simply because of the disparity that existed when the movement started and the fact that the word has become ingrained in the public consciousness. Granted, "gender equality" or "sexual equality" might be more accurate, I'm firmly of the opinion that most people who identify as feminists do so out of a desire to achieve equality rather than superiority.
That said, it certainly isn't universally true, and in my experience the opposite is definitely not uncommon. In much the same way that the flood of "nationalist" Australia Day chain emails try to conceal their racism with carefully chosen words, there are many who share similar attitudes to those you listed but express them with a little more subtlety, too - but thankfully they are but a minority. I think it is incredibly unfair to tar those that genuinely believe in equality with the same brush. Sadly, some are driven by a value, and others by their agenda.
I believe in equality. No one should have more or less choices available to them because of their gender, or their race, or their sexuality - regardless of whether or not that choice fits the traditional stereotypes or roles. Expecting those identifying as feminists to eliminate any of those choices simply to fit in with someone's definition of the label makes no sense.
Last edited by DaddyLarge; 30-01-2012 at 18:58.
yes i think that for the most part i agree with you. But at the same time - if its a choice, then as a feminist i would believe that she has the right to make the decision for herself - silly or not :P
I guess i could think of several reasons why women would make that choice.
And many more why they would end up in that situation without having chosen it.
But thankyou for clarifying - i think for the most part we're probably in agreeance. LOL
Having said that....if my dh was that rich where I didn't HAVE to work unless I got bored and wanted to.....I may only do volunteer work or something and choose to be totally dependant Who knows?
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