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    Default Help, phil and teds sport or explorer?

    Have reasearched different prams and like the Phil and Teds sport pram, which has been superceded to the explorer I think?

    I have listed some pros and cons and some questions for anyone that can help me?

    Pros:
    * ability to have a seat for toddler on our long walks, he still loves to ride in the pram now (baby due in may) when did your toddler get over riding in the pram?
    * ability to turn pram into a single pram once toddler mostly wants to use a buggyboard - by detaching one seat. 
    * Able to attach a buggyboard (lascal I think?) and a free rider which I will prob get down the track when toddler wants to walk more and be out of the pram. What attachments would I need?
    * weight takes up to 20kg for toddler and 15kg for second bub (I think toddler is a fair way off 20kg yet!) Can older toddler jump in and out when he gets tired of the lower back seat with younger bub up front, or is this not recommended?
    * can go offroad comfortably, hopefully with no tilting!

    Cons:
    * Number 2 bub is down quite low in the bottom seat- near dust, mud etc?
    * cant use buggyboard or freerider whilst leaving both seats on the pram, think I will have to remove the lower back seat?
    * Toddler will need to be in the lower back seat whilst newborn is up the front (is that right?) limiting toddlers view etc, not sure how toddler will like this with his view obstructed?

    Thanks to anyone who can help me! I am looking at purchasing a second hand phil and teds sport on ebay or gumtree rather than an explorer, simply to save $. 

    Does the newer explorer have any great advantages over the sport model? 
    What is the more recent sport model I should be looking for?
    Oh and is there an option for a capsule, thought about hiring one?

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    I have the P&T Sport, we purchased it right before the Explorer came out and got a package with toddler seat, UV & Rain covers etc.

    To answer a few of your questions:
    Yes, there is an option for a capsule - I have the SnS Unity and I think the attachment kit is $30. It was very handy. However, toddler must ride down in the bottom seat when this option is in use.
    If you're not using the capsule, you lay the original seat back to a flat position. Your newborn lays in there (you can access from behind) and your toddler rides up the top. Once #2 is old enough to sit a little more upright, (4-6months) you can shift them to the bottom seat, and your older child stays at the front. It's always recommended that the older/heavier child rides at the front. That also kind of answers your question about the older child not being able to see much. It doesn't matter for #2 as all he/she knows is looking at the back of the older child in the pram, kwim?

    I have no experience with the buggy board. DS is only 14mo and will only be 19mo when #2 arrives.

    I've looked at the Explorer and whilst the new features are nice, I don't think they're worth the extra $$ if you can find a Sport at a decent price.

    GL! Inbox me if you have any more questions. I really love my P&T!

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    Thanks so much for the info!
    Just wondering if I need to use a cocoon for when the newborn lies down initially?
    Also what would you consider a decent price to pay for a sport 2010 model?

    I think there is some difference with the sunshade between the sport and explorer?

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    We were going to go originally with the P&T Explorer. My DF's ex upgraded to the 2010 model and she loves it. She upgraded back when Phil & Ted was the pram to have. Unfortunately since then P&T have gone downhill and they have had heaps of recalls and all the pram stores have been telling me they're shocking when it comes to warranty jobs. I'm not sure if they couldn't keep up with the demand and they started slacking off on the quality side? Personally I would think twice about getting a Phil & Ted. I read up all the reviews and they have been pretty poor... My DF's ex hasn't had issues with her explorer so you never know?

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    I love my P&T sports. Cant talk about it highly enough, currently i use it for a 3yr old & a 19 month old. I personally dont see a need to get a cocoon as the seat goes back totally flat so the 2yr old (roughly that when bubs is born) will sit on the front when this bubs comes.

    No for the buggyboard you will need to take the back seat off but you should be able to use it while you have a newborn and a toddler on the front as the back area will be free for that time

    The newborn will be laying down & with the attachement the older child will be sitting up over top of them so wont be at the back (if that makes sense).

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    In my opinion the E3 and V1 Sports had a much better build quality than any of the current P&T line.

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    Thanks everyone! Good to hear lots of opinions. It was good to hear thag the older model P&T are thought to be more sturdy..i was leaning towards a sports v2

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    The p&t explorer has been safety checked to have a capsule up top and a toddler underneath with an attachment.

    The sport can hold a capsule up top but is not safety certified for toddler underneath. But lots of people do ignore this.

    Both models you can use the pram flat foe newborn and toddler up top. Or big kid up front and small kid underneath. I think the explorer can hold 25kg/15kg so 40 kg total.

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    Thanks for the info, don't think I will use a capsule muh as I will be walking most places and when Im out and about with toddler will use my sling for the baby. So I wont have a car much and not much use for a capsule.

    I wonder if the weight is the same for the older models too?

    Will I need a cocoon for the baby? Sorry if ive asked some of these questions - senile baby brain atm..

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    The explorer has a
    New brake system
    Which is much better than the older versions, the second seat also has a sun shade. The front shade visor is also fully adjustable forwards. The folding mechanism is also new and very easy to use, one handed. My two are 14 months apart and we love it. Has been perfect for us.

    I have the explorer and love it.

    Never had a problem with service. We qualified for the upgraded frame when they changes the brake, got
    It within 3 days of contacting them.


 

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