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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Mac View Post
    Thanks everyone for your responses.

    Any suggestions how to get him to not feed to sleep? That's the biggest struggle for us. DH finally managed to get him to sleep tonight, lying with him on our bed. He's had a few wins over the last month or two, but mostly he just screams with DH.

    Tell me what an overtired toddler looks like. Like I said, we had this same battle with DS1 for over a year, where he just couldn't get to sleep at night and when we ditched the day sleep at 26 months he slept like a dream.
    I just googled overtired toddler and came up with this:

    Toddlers who do not have enough sleep are usually irritable; prone to
    tantrums; and may cry, whine, or scream rather than using their words. They may
    get clumsy or excessively hyper. They may show more separation anxiety or get
    more easily frustrated with games or projects. Additionally, they may start
    falling asleep at odd times during the day – like in the car in the morning, or
    on the way home from preschool in the afternoon. And here’s the cruelest irony:
    If they’re overtired, it may be harder to get them to sleep at night.



    It pretty much sums up how my little bug was when he was overtired. What made me think he may be overtired from your posts was, the difficult to get to sleep, catnap during the day if at all, wont sit still for a story, and that he is waking at night.
    What I would suggest for breaking the feeding to sleep association is to change the bedtime routine to dinner, breastfeed, then bath, then bed.
    But then I guess the problem is how to get him to go to sleep, and I think if I had the answer to that, I would be a millionaire!
    I'm not sure where you are, but I got some great advice with both my bubs from a private child health nurse, here is her website: http://www.healthybaby.com.au/

    ETA: I agree with Jazzy- a consistent daytime routine usually helps with bedtime/ sleeping too.
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    Gah. He's awake again, after 3 hours as per usual, screaming his lungs out because DH has him because I am not feeding him back to sleep. This has been the case every time we've tried dropping the night feed since he was 8 or 9 months. And we've tried by several times. I've been really hesitant to try the sleep school, because I've been told the local sleep school is very pro-controlled crying. I might try and get a hold of the No Cry book, even though I hate parenting books because they tend to have a 'one size fits all' approach. That description of overtired sounds nothing like my DS, except that he wakes up during the night. But it also sounds like an older child. Though, I still don't think over tiredness is the problem. I'm not really sure how i can make him sleep more anyway. If the most he will ever sleep in the day time is 90 minutes, then how can I make him sleep longer?

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    Half an hour later, still screaming with DH. Getting more and more distressed. He is one determined little boy.

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    If you look up 'tresillian sleep school in noble park' they have video footage on how to settle a baby/toddler to sleep. Have a look at it. It's basically what I was taught when I too dd at 7 months. The thing is, when you start one method of settling, stick to it. If you keep chopping and changing your methods then bub will get so confused. A clear message for sleep needs to be given to him so stick with one method that is healthy for him.... and you. Give him a sleep toy that stays in the bed and use this as a sleep association too. You have to be prepared for some crying at the start. Most of the time it's the parents that can't bear the crying and then give up. Bit don't give up. He will soon be sleeping and you'll be so darn proud of yourself and him. Your little bub sounds like he is really overtired. Bubs aren't like us when they're tired. They cant fall asleep as easily as adults do. Another reason why routine is so good for them. X

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    He woke up four times last night, and I didn't feed him back to sleep once. I guess it's a start.

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    I don't like hearing ds cry either and I am not a fan of controlled crying, HOWEVER I was advised by a doctor to leave him to cry when he wakes up just for a few mins and see if the crying stays the same or gets worse. If he gets distressed to go in.... it never got to that he settled himself to sleep 10 mins later. he has woke up and cried a few times since and I have given up and gone in and its made him 10 times worse. My mum came over last week and said hes crying you should go in, i left him for 2 mins then guilt set in so in I went and he went histerical!! I put him back down and left 10 mins later he was sound asleep.... mum said wow that will teach me to interfear! In saying that what works for one doesn't work for another keep trying your doing great.

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    We have got really tough on DS, and it seems to be working. We have worked hard at dropping over night feeds. He has been sleeping far more consistently this past week.

    At the moment his sleep looks a bit like

    11:30-12pm he goes down for a nap and wakes up 1.5 hours later
    8:30-9pm goes to bed for the night. Sometimes wakes sometime during the night and DH puts him back to sleep if necessary. Wakes at about 5am. Goes back to sleep after a half hour or so of cuddling and whingy (I'm not backing down on feeding him until it's light!) .
    6:30-7am rise and shine!

    He's sleeping a total of 11-12 hours a day/night combined, but for the first time in his life he's showing some consistency in his sleep.

    After he's well settled in this routine, and not waking during the night, I'll start trying to drop the day sleep. I know it's a long day without the day sleep, but I remember it being so so so much more pleasant when DS1 dropped his day sleep and even though I hardly got a break in the day from 7pm was all MINE.

    And I'm still certain he is not overtired. On Saturday, for whatever reason he woke up from his day nap after 30 mins and that day he was overtired and cracky alllllll afternoon. He is usually a hundred miles a minute and cheerful and giggly from go to whoa.

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    Great news! I hope you've been able to catch up on some sleep, I know once DS started sleeping better I would still wake up every couple of hours wondering if he was still alive!


 

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