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    So I have made up my mind that I want to grow my own veges and stuff, im going to either make or buy them (the beds) and wondering can all veges go in garden beds? or do some have to go in the ground. What things can I grow other then the normal?
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    This is what our garden looks like http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr....B5dCk0jiVkQ%3D
    It's pretty basic, has tomatoes, mixed lettuce, spinach, chillis, parsley, banana peppers, strawberries, cucumbers and other assorted herbs. We are moving house soon though, so will have to start from scratch again, boo. But plan on also doing a second bed for "root" veggies, such as potatoes, carrots, pumpkin, onions etc. You can pretty much see in the pic how we made our beds, it wasn't that hard, just got some old timber sleepers which made the bed poured the soil in and then put mesh up on the sides. We also have a lemon and lime tree, but they are still babies so havent harvasted from them yet.

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    They will say how deep the need to be planted. We grow ours in half wine barrels. We grow cherry tomatoes, lettuce etc. We also have chives and spring onions growing in an old cement sink.

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    you can grow most things in garden beds - just make sure they are reasonably deep. Potatoes grow deep, so some ppl grow them in tubes/tyres etc to get the extra height.

    the main thing you need to decent soil - whether thats in a garden bed, pot, normal ground etc sholdnt really matter too much.

    What vegies do you eat?

    We grow our vegies in 'no dig' gardens which are bascially gardens built above the ground ontop of pretty much any surface. you built up layers and over time they becoem the soil. you never dig it up just keep adding a layer over time as it drops down. it is a really clever way to grow cos you don't have to put in heaps of energy digging, can you built it on pretty much anything inclduing concrete, you don't get many bugs cos the micro-organisms in the soil are retained through not digging them up, they don't need much water.

    eta: most of our herbs are in raised gardens bed and all our fruit trees are just in the normal ground.
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    There are pros and cons to garden beds vs in the ground, firstly setup cost, raised beds will obviously be more expensive. However you can get really good soil /compost to make sure the fertility is high to start with.

    One advantage of gardening in the ground is that in general your garden beds will stay moist for longer than raised beds, you really do need to keep a good eye on them to make sure they don't dry out too much, you will be watering more often.

    Mulch is an absolute must if you want to keep your plants moist witout watering all the time, I used to use sugar cane, but you can use grass clippings which have wilted if you wish, or buy other things.

    With raised beds digging and weeding tends to be easier, because the soil will be lighter, and it's also easy to just dig your kitchen scraps in in you want to, if you don't have a compost system up and running.

    All the best, gardening is great fun

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    We eat carrots, pumpkin, lettuce, tomatoes, sweet/potatoes, brussel sprouts everything basically. We have timbers sleepers thats how DH would make them or if he takes to long Ill just buy the beds from bunnings there like $50 ill props buy 4 to start with. The ground of it will be cement will this matter? They will be about 1/2 meter high

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    You've just got to ensure your garden will drain, as waterlogging will kill your plants.

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    whats waterlogging? How can you have good drainage?

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    Cement ground is fine - just get some matting (like potato sacks or weed matt) to go ont he bottom and then also layer some newspapers. put some bigger rocks, pebbles on bottom to allow the water to filter through so it doesn't get boggy with water. (you may need to put some drain holes on the side?)

    If you using sleepers, just make sure they aren't treated pine (the old sort that has the poison in it - is it arsnic? not sure).

    i reckon the beds you can buy are pretty good value, just be mindful of the corregated tin ones - tin attracts and stores heat adn can dry out the soil. Like AM said I good mulch is essential.

    carrots - need about 50cm so that should be fine
    pumpkins - they grow above the ground on a vine so you can just chuck those in the ground somewhere and they will do their thing. (make a decent hole and fill with good soil for the actual plant and they will be fine).

    lettuce - grows really well in shallow pots - they have very small roots (you could grow them on a verandah kinda of thing)

    tomaotes - need good soil (i think lime too??) and have medium roots. You can go tommy toe or smaller varities that take up less room with lots of fruit on them.

    spuds - liek i said they grow in clumps - so we grow ours in tyres (some ppl don't like that cos they worried about toxins but we think its ok - we line our tyres with hessan bags). STart with one tyre and cover spuds with soil, as you see the first green shoot get big enough cover it up (leave the green bit out so it still gets sun). keep doing that and the whole barrel will fill with spuds.

    brussell sprouts - i have never grown but they are brasicias so they woudl be winter crop and probaby med size roots. fine for garden bed.
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    Well if you simply put the sleepers down directly on the concrete, you are kind of making a closed 'pool' type setup so water could just pool in the bottom of your garden bed and actually end up like a swamp IYKWIM. Plants need water, but must also have oxygen to grow, if the soil is too wet (waterlogged) they will die from lack of oxygen (unless they are water plants in a pond of course!)

    You could put some thinner wood around underneath first, but make sure there are gaps, not butted up against each other completely, then put the sleepers on.

    Think of a plant pot which has drainage holes in the bottom...

    ___ ___ ___ ___
    l___ ___ ___ __ l

    This kinda thing so the water can escape out the bottom, not huge gaps, or you can lose a lot of soil.


 

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