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    My Aunty has tried EVERYTHING to quit smoking. She is very well off and travels the world constantly (follows the summers around the world) and she has tried everything under the sun from everywhere around the world to quit smoking. Nothing has worked. She still smokes. Whenever I see her she reminds me how proud she is of me for quitting smoking. She sooo badly wants to quit and values her life greatly...she just cant seem to kick the habit.
    Every smoker is different. Just because I can throw out a full pack and not touch them again, doesnt mean I expect every other smoker to be able to quit as easily and I think its unfair for non-smokers to expect smokers to easily give it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confucius View Post
    Oris If I ever met tour father I'd walk up and Thank him. What an amazing guy kudos to him
    You would not believe how much it has changed our relationship, how i view him and what feelings i feel when he texts me and tells me he is coming over. And now he is also a different person, he is not a great looking man but has had quite a few women his age hit on him and has even gone on a date.

    My parents have been seperated since just before i was 8 and i had to spend until i was 13 going from one house to another where both my parents smoked, and they both did when they were together. When i was 13 and my mum quit i stopped going to my dads for weekend visits, why go to a house where you are smoked around when you can stay at one where you arent. That only lasted 2 years to when my older brother started smoking and my older sister quit (when i was 12) because she couldnt have treatment while smoking and then took it back up a year later, well she quit a year ago because she was 7 weeks pregnant and when i was pregnant she came to a parenting group where the midwife explained what smoking does to the unborn baby and she didnt want to do it to her baby.

    To whoever that said i cant talk if i eat junk food or drink alcohol excessively etc, I have had 2 half glasses of stongbow in over 2 years and due to breastfeeding i've checked my milk before breastfeeding him, the only takeaway i eat is subway and the only junk food i eat are icypoles/pizza(on a very small scale as in one slice), and i exercise everyday on the wii for atleast an hour. Since being pregnant with my son, i put him first always, i promised him that from my first BFP onwards that he was the most important thing in my life, i will not do anything that could knowingly take me away from him. Everything i can control i do, so things i put into my body i limit, ontop of that i have a screwed liver from my pregnancy so I have to watch everything i put into my body. After the 2 (1 month apart) half glasses of strongbow, i felt so hungover and sore that i wont drink ever again because its not worth it. My body is not perfect for sure but i am working on it and not putting anything into my body that could take me away from him.

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    I did smoke socially for 4 months and I stopped when i met DH and he hated it. But honestly the few times I have had a few drinks since I started having children and each time I have really wanted a smoke, even though it makes me feel sick when sober, I love the smell of it when drunk. Powerful stuff! I guess because I only ever smoked in those 4 months while drinking and my brain associates it with that. So I don't judge smokers at all, because I can't even imagine how bad it would be to try to quit if you smoke all the time and have for a long time.

    However... I judge inconsiderate smokers. Like last week I went to an outdoor kids movie. At least 3 sets of parents around us chain smoked the whole time. I am talking toddlers and babies on laps, ash everywhere, talking through their smokes as they told off their kids, only taking them out of their mouth to kiss their kids or eat/drink, pushing the butts into the grass. THAT had me boiled up the whole movie and I would have left if it weren't for everyone else we were with, and a good breeze making it less horrible to smell. I still threw up when we got to the car, and I think it was from the smoke smell and being pregnant. I should have just left.

    Places people shouldn't smoke but do all the time around here...

    Crowded beaches.
    Playgrounds.
    Hospital just outside or in courtyard.
    In their cars with children.

    I am glad that the years of advertisments and campaigns are working a little bit. When 20-30 years ago people smoked everywhere and you were the minority to call it "gross", it shows that something is actually working with the education campaigns when the minority now are upset that it is looked down on. Hopefully less and less of the next generations take it up in the first place with most people knowing about the health risks.

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    I thought I was a considerate smoker too once upon a time, but since becoming a non smoker I now realise there's basically no such thing - unless of course you smoke in a bubble or perhaps live on a few acress. Not smoking in public is great, but even if you only smoke in your suburban backyard someone else is going to have to smell it from their home

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livvey View Post

    Yes, i agree that ex smokers are the most harsh on current smokers, but i also feel that as an ex smoker, i know how a smoker feels, having been there myself. Though, like anything in life, you can tell someone until you're blue in the face how wrong something is, but it's up to the individual to see it for themselves. Until they see it, nothing will change and arguing about it is just wasted energy. Every smoker know's how bad it is for them.
    That's it.

    I smoked for many, many years. I did quit cold turkey, but I recognize for others it may not be as easy or even possible to do so.

    In saying that, in my own personal experience, deciding to take up smoking was a choice, so it is hard for me to comprehend that others see it as something other than a choice (not saying their feelings aren't valid - I just don't understand because I haven't been there).

    I do, however, resent the parallel somebody mentioned between smoking and mental illness.

    A person doesn't have any say whatsoever in mental illness - they do have a say in smoking (if even only for whether or not they start in the first place). I don't really think you can compare the two.
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    My friend seriously looked at opening a rehab facility for smoking as sometimes it's not as easy as tabs cold turkey or patches.
    My dp gave up with hypnosis but still smokes when he drinks.

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    Quitting smoking isn't hard, it's staying quit if your an idiot like me ha ha.. Just don't smoke.. Simple, don't buy any, don't bum any.. Don't just have one, it doesn't hurt like other drug withdrawal, it's mental, and unless your ready, you won't stop.. I'm stoping because of breathlessness and I'm only 31, 5 kids need me around, no one can love them like I do, or protect them as fiercely as I will. So for me it's smoke and die or quit and live.. Fairly simple to figure out what to do.
    It depends on how you look at it, giving up something you love, yes you'll be angry... Giving up something that's killing you and has had you under it's finger for over half your life, breaking free is empowering. If your planning on quitting, see the positives that will follow

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    Nomsie can back me up that where we live there is no such thing as considerate smoker.
    True. Just the culture of this place.

    (and a slightly off-topic FYI for your Mum- if she is wanting to lose weight, having a twister from KFC is just about the worst thing you can choose off the menu. I know it seems like the healthiest option, but the sauce, the wrap... it's really VERY fattening. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronny-jane View Post
    It depends on how you look at it, giving up something you love, yes you'll be angry... Giving up something that's killing you and has had you under it's finger for over half your life, breaking free is empowering. If your planning on quitting, see the positives that will follow
    Yep, this is the most important part of successful quitting. You need to be happy with what you have to gain by quitting rather than resentful of everything u have to give up, with one u can live happily with your choice, the other means u will be longing for another smoke forever and likely to succumb to that one with a drink one might, then again the next nigh, then to help the hangover the next day... Until u r a smoker again.

    Good luck with it BJ.

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    Nicotine withdrawals are physically painful for a lot of people this has been proven.


 

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