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    SparkyB were you charting? Would love to see your chart if do? Mine is below. Still confused about the o date as I had a trigger CD13....

    http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3e2d67

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ainsleyp View Post
    Petepie how long have you been on clomid? Are you having scans to see if you're growing a follicle? I hear losing just a bit of weight can really help. IVF is a last resort in my opinion, especially of you've only just found out about the PCOS.
    have been on clomid for June and July and both failed. no scans or blood tests etc. I think my FS is a little lazy as I was there for 12 minutes today.. just writes out scripts etc.. I asked some questions etc but yeah.. I have a blood test on CD21 to see if progesterone has changed.. if not he might up my dosage but he doesnt want to over stimulate the ovary which can have negative results..

    he seemed to be ok with it all but did mention if it doesnt work for me then IVF is the next step.. and I really really dont want to go down that path

    just feel so useless

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    Ainsleyp, I wasn't charting at all. Just on clomid days 1-5 then BT on CD21 to check for O. I was pretty lucky in that once I did have O, I got my BFP the same month. Just did the deed from around CD11-16 every second day. I also had a good idea the O had occurred as I had sharp O pain. Clomid didn't work for me on it's own, I had ovarian drilling done late June and got BFP within 5 weeks. It's something to consider if clomid doesn't work. My FS said he has only done it twice this year and both had success within 6 weeks! No guarantees but it is definitely an option and much cheaper than IVF.

    Petepie, I'd definitely be asking for at least BT on CD21. Easy to do and you can at least check if clomid is working. Seems a bit odd that your FS isn't doing that?

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    I really don't know what to do. I'm torn because I think my doctor is great. He provides a lot of monitoring and has done a lot more for me than my old ob/gyn. However he definitely said that if we're going to look at IUI then you have to do the injectables as well and it ends up being very costly. I've spoken to other girls on my FB TTC group and they said it wasn't that costly either.

    I don't want to change doctors. Once this cycle is over and if I don't get a BFP then I will book an appointment with him and make him really go through the IUI option and what's involved. I don't want to turn straight to IVF without really knowing what my options are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss_petepie View Post
    have been on clomid for June and July and both failed. no scans or blood tests etc. I think my FS is a little lazy as I was there for 12 minutes today.. just writes out scripts etc.. I asked some questions etc but yeah.. I have a blood test on CD21 to see if progesterone has changed.. if not he might up my dosage but he doesnt want to over stimulate the ovary which can have negative results..

    he seemed to be ok with it all but did mention if it doesnt work for me then IVF is the next step.. and I really really dont want to go down that path

    just feel so useless
    Petepie don't feel useless you poor thing!!!! Your FS should be providing more info.

    I was growing a follicle but not ovulating so just needed the trigger shot. That could be your problem too, but you wouldnt know it. I was on 25mg of clomid, so more isn't necessarily better. And higher doses can affect CM etc. I would ask for a day 10-12 scan. Where are you located? Did someone rec you the FS. You're so so so far away from IVF being an option, please get another opinion before you even think about that.

    Some FSs prescribe clomid without really assessing you. Have you read Taking Charge of Your Fertility? It's excellent and will empower you with knowledge so you can question any diagnosis you're given. xx

    961 - IVF should be your last option. Do some research so you can ask your FS all the questions. Don't let anyone push you into IVF without very good reason.

    SparkyB - sorry I do remember your drilling now. So fantastic for you!!!
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    Hi ladies,

    I'm sorry I haven't been around for awhile...
    I've been feeling a little frustrated as I'm still waiting for my next ovulation... It's been since mid June...

    I saw the doctor about clomid and REALLY want them to put me on it.
    The longer it takes to start means we won't have our family til who knows when... If ever.
    I'm hoping the next 2 weeks is a go...

    I'll be around more... Just needed to breathe..

    I hope we have had some good news in here recently!

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    Familyplanner and petepie sounds like your specialists are mucking you around - if they aren't doing scans or bt how can they have any idea what's going on?

    When you had a scan you would have seen all the tiny follicles in your ovaries - because we have PCOS there are heaps and that is what makes ovulation induction so hard. They are trying to stimulate one follicle out of all of those to grow and ovulate. Clomid is a standard dose for 5 days and hope for the best. This obviously works for some but is not even close for others. I did two cycles - 1 at 50mg and 1 at 100mg then we decided to move on.

    Injections seems like a big step but honestly once you've done 1 you'll see it's no big deal. The benefit of injections over clomid is that they can adjust the dose as you go and basically you can keep going until you get a follicle.

    Both cycles I've done it's taken 3 weeks of injections but I've grown 1 follicle then had a trigger and ovulated. I've also not had any side effects, it doesn't dry up cm or affect your lining. I'm not doing insemination yet (iui) and DP and I just dtd for the few days after the trigger till ovulation.

    I collect the injections from a normal pharmacy myself costs $35. It does say on the box that full cost is $1000 but it's subsidized by nhs cause I'm considered clomid resistant - so long as you've got Medicare your right.

    Other costs then are just the appointments and scans with fs every 6/7 days to check progress and trigger is about $20.

    The injections are the same as they use for IVF just in lower doses and IVF uses other drugs as well. IVF is opposite to OI cause your trying to stimulate lots (but not too many!) of follicles not just 1. However with PCOS it's still hard because there are so many tiny follicles soon as they start those high doses of drugs they may all start growing which is bad and can cause over stimulation. Plus too many follicles means quality is prob not so good. So you can see with PCOS it's always going to be tricky to get the right number of follicles which is why we need such close monitoring to ensure things are going to plan.

    Hope I've helped a bit - sorry if you already know all that. Any other questions just ask. All the best

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    Well, it seems I may be O'ing really late as I had EWCM this morning, so will get BD'ing tonight! We shall see as I should get my BT today too. Should have BD last night but was tooooo tired....been 3 days now since we last did the deed.

    I am only going have one more go this year, I have family coming out for Christmas so I want to be either over the 3 months or not at all as it would be too hard to continue BD while they are here too!

    I can only have 9 go's of clomid and I will be on 4 next month, so I don't want waste them....next year I might be in a better state of mind too as I will have less going on.

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    Yeah just got my BT results and it looks like I haven't O'd yet!

    So hopefully it is happening now, but won't get a chance to BD tomorrow.....

    Only tonight and Sat......

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    Green Fairy- Thanks for all the info on IUI and FSH injections. It's giving me some ammo to take to the FS. He is doing scans from CD7 every second day until O and last time we seen the big juicy follie when it was 20mm but I think it took several days more to pop after that which I don't consider normal. He is also doing blood tests every second day to monitor.

    My old OB/GYN only did the day 21 blood test with no scans at all and continued to increase my clomid dose until I was up to 200mg!!! I was an emotional train wreck.

    My new FS comes highly recommended and has a fantastic CV. I think he's only flaw is his trigger happy compulsion to jump straight to IVF. I'm sure he will give me all the information I need to make an informed decision if I demand it.


 

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