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    Default 2 losses - Your experiences/ Causes?/ Naturophath advice?

    So my partner and I have experienced 2 missed miscarriage April 2011 and December 2011 We don't seem to have a problem conceiving but with both losses bub had stopped developing around the 8 or so week mark and a few weeks later I began to bleed. I miscarried both bubs naturally at home.

    I am having some blood tests done to check for possible issues including hormones imbalance, auto immune diseases, blood clotting disorders ect but I think these are about as much as the doctor will do at this stage. She said after 3 losses they would look into things more. Not really in the position to pay for further testing (Would I employ an OB for this?)

    Obviously the results of the above tests will shed some light on my situation. But I would be interested to hear from others in a similar situation - what test you had done, what were the results how did things turn out?

    Also I would love to hear from any hubbers who are naturophaths and wouldn't mind offering my some advice on how to help us have a healthy bub or Hubbers who have had a similar experience of loss and utilised a the help of a naturaopath and what results they had

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    Did they do any genetic testing on the fetuses? That did give us some answers. I don't know about naturopaths but I suggest you get yourself the best fertility specialist you can afford. I am not sure of your age but either way don't put getting expert assistance on hold. No one knows more than the medical directors of top fertility clinics. This comes from years of experience. Baby making has $ signs all over it and there are people who claim all kinds of assistance to take advantage of your desperation! Good luck.


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    Unfortunately because I've been a public patient genetic testing has not been offered. My Gp said that if (god forbid) it happened again that she would prefer me go to hospital for a D&C that way they could keep the foetus, I guess for testing? I really wish we had this as an option with the ones we've already lost it just horrible knowing nothing.

    So if we wanted to get more testing done - who do we approach? How much does it cost?

    Eta - Sorry you've also experienced loss - its so horrible! What did the tests reveal about your little ones?

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    I've also suffered two miscarriages in a row, one in July '11 and one in November '11. So big hugs to you because it hurts so much especially when there are so many people around I know having babies or are announcing their pregnancies.

    I am the same as you, no problem conceiving but we lost both babies at 8 weeks. I too am a public patient and because I had a d&c with the second miscarriage testing was carried out. We have no reason why with the first but with the second our test results found that we had a partial molar pregnancy.

    We are going to try again but we want to give it a few months firstly to get our heads back in a positive frame of mind and another reason is with the partial molar pregnancy, after having one of them we need to wait approx 6 months and make sure we have hcg test results of 0 for the next few months.

    I decided to see a acupuncture & chinese herb lady so she is helping me with some acupuncture sessions and herbs to take to prepare my body for when I fall pregnant next. We also decided to see an ivf clinic to get some help with seeing why and to help us keep the next one (hopefully). I feel really positive with seeing both of these people. Maybe you should contact an ivf clinic and get some idea of prices as you may not need all the services that they have so it may not be as expensive as what you think. Plus when you do fall pregnant again they will monitor you more closely.

    We're also trying to do more exercise and eat loads more salads and fruit and just try and be more healthy.

    We are having more blood tests but the ones I've had so far have only found very minor deficiencies in vitamin d.

    I hope you are going ok as it is a difficult thing to go through and reassure yourself that it's just one of those things.

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    Thank you for your reply Mummyluv10!!! I'm so sorry to hear you have been through the same heartbreak I have over the past year. I know what you mean about EVERYONE being pregnant and having babies too - in fact, with my last pregnancy, one of my closest friends and I disclosed we were pregnant to each other and discovered we were expecting within weeks of each other. Her pregnancy is progressing along nicely even though she was not planning it and actually took the morning after pill too. I love her and am happy for her but oh my gosh, it's hard!

    It imagine it would really help to know you have the assistance and support of acupuncture & chinese herb lady and the IVF clinic! I know for me feeling like I was actively seeking out and utilising what services I could would makes things a little easier. Unfortunately, I'm not sure my partner will agree to approaching an IVF clinic at this stage but he has questioned whether we might need it if we continue with the losses. I think if it did happen again he would be more willing - partly because the doctor is saying it's "very very common" and that "it's not serious until you loose 3 or more" - felt like screaming at her that it doesn't help when she says that - I KNOW something isn't right. I Guess we'll see what the blood test my GP as ordered say and go from there.

    I might drop in to my local Healthy Life and see if I can talk to the Naturopath there at least. All my GP said was to make sure I take Folic Acid


    Would love to know how things go for you with TTC and your future pregnancy. I really wish you all the best and hope you are holding a healthy baby in your arms very soon.



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    Hi friends,

    I am Donna and I am new to here. My partner and I have just done IVF with a top, amazing clinic. Without them there was no chance of a pregnancy for us.
    The specialists were unable to get me to cycle well enough to get me to egg collection and said the only chance we had was with an egg donor. This was something that initially my partner was a little aprehensive about but I wasn't. After a few weeks, he became so comfortable with the idea, it was such a relief.
    We were so blessed to have an amazing woman from interstate offer to be our donor. She is friends with one of my friends so finding a donor was easy for us.
    After we flew her in to see the fertility specialist, it was all go. I had to have surgery to dilate my cervix as the were unable to even get a paediatric catheter through so needed to get that done before any transfer could take place.
    We got 8 eggs, 5 fertilised, one fresh one was implanted on day 3, three were frozen and the other not good enough for freezing and was discarded as not viable.
    We were lucky, our transfer took and I got a positive preg result. We have had weekly hcg blood tests done. We had a 6 1/2 week ultrasound and bubs heartbeat was strong, position was great, sac was great so all in all everything was fantastic.
    During our 9th week, my hcg did a major fall and the clinic nurse was very concerned and bloods were re-gone two days later and they did a major drop again. The fertility specialist wanted me to stop all me ivf meds which were supporting the pregnancy as they said the preg had died. They said it could take up to two weeks for a natural m/c to happen which was their preferred option and if needed a d & c.
    We have been totally shocked, saddened, distraight, confused and at times I want to put blame. Fact is, nothing changes it no matter how much I wish it would. The crying, the dispair, I know it is all part of grief and for those of us that have experienced the loss, it is a feeling you cant truly understand unless you have endured it. It is really difficult.
    Yesterday the cramping started. I said to my partner, here we go, this is it, today or tomorrow. At 3am this morning, he ran me a bath to help with the cramping pain and the back ache. I passed the little one about 3.15am.
    The pain was still horrible but with some pain killers and heated towels, it is much better.
    We are fortunate to be able to use one of our 3 remaining embryos but it certainly doesnt change the emotional agony of losing this one. We will grieve together and I have found that talking about it over the last few days has helped.
    For those that have had loss, I know totally understand your pain. I hope 2012 brings everyone love, health and brighter days.

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    Hi DJSHEARS - I'm so sorry to hear of your recent loss - all I can say is I truly feel your pain what a journey you have been on. I really hope your next transfer goes so very well and the little bubba sticks.

    I know the roller-coaster of emotions that you have explained. It sounds like you have a really supportive partner which I know helps so much. I found talking about my losses was the best therapy for me also and know that you can turn to Bub hub for support at any time.

    Wishing you all the best - keep us updated on your progress

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    Onelove.....Thanks for that. Yeah, it is tough. I rang my fertility nurse this morning and she was happy for us in that it happened quickly and at home. I will have more bloods on Thursday to monitor HCG downcycle and then I guess back to the clinic for another scan and a new plan. If anything, this motivates me to now speak at the ivf seminars about real life, the imperfect path and recovery and I guess self re-discovery.
    I am really fortunate with my partner, he is strong in so many ways but is never afraid to shed tears. Last night when I started to "fall apart", he was encouraging me to keep it together, reminded me that to start again this needed to happen and that there was nothing we can do to change it. Then, once it was over, he cried again. He has this amazing way of being there for me in everthing. Not just in this horrible time. I can only imagine what some women go through without support. It must be terrible. Good thing on-line networks can bring together a group of women prepared to share a very private and personal trauma.
    There is hope for many of us and so many wonderful outcomes that are yet to come.
    Donna

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    Your partner sounds wonderful - good luck to you both on your next attempt!


 

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