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    well i am still here and still in one piece...
    had a scare yesterday with bleeding, so they are just a lil worried now... have to wait till next week to get scan and talk to ob again as to what the plan is, of course noone wants to tell me anything or set anything in concrete...
    i am really scared that we are going to have a really premmi bub, i know i will deal with whatever the universe throws at me, but oh my i am not looking forward to it...
    having cramps tonight, so i thinking bed for me... and lots of rest over the next week- thats if i can with kids and all the rest...
    hope that you are all doing well... and baroness, its not the cervix that they are worried about now, its bacteria infection that they are putting it down to... i dont know, think that they are just pulling at straws to point the finger at something!!
    will keep in touch..
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    Hi Kyahli, I was so worried for you when I read this...so sorry to hear it. I know you've prepared yourself in some ways but it can be such a severe shock when it happens. I felt kind of numb, optimistic and paralysed with fear at the same time. It's that constant wait till the next scan that is so awful, too. Now you're past 24wks, at least the doc's will take this bub's issues more seriously. Thank the gods you've made it this far and every extra day bub stays put will help so much, so do try to rest and take it day by day.

    I really hope it's not an infection. After the fact, he docs thought our bub may have been subject to an infection causing him to have a small head circ. Ended up being genetic propensity to smallness. Now I think about it, they thought the pre-term cramping/ threatened pre-term labour was caused by an infection, but I was convinced it was just the abruption and ended up being right ~ it was classic abruption contractions ~ coming so thick and fast it was all one long cramp. I also otherwise felt well and didn't have any other symptoms, but sometimes you don't with an infection. Am rambling on with this as something here might strike a chord or ring a bell with you in some way. I hated feeling like no-one knew how I felt. I'm sure you'll get more answers next week ~ hang in there, Kyahli, till then. PM me if it helps at all. Often it feels like the docs aren't giving all the answers and are holding their cards close to their chest, but that may be because they really don't have the answers to give right now. Some things aren't known till after the birth. Do you feel like this Ob is at least knowledgable and proactive about your case? Have they made plans for what will happen if bub does come really early, or told you to come in if any changes at all happen? Push for monitoring, K, although I'm aware it's hard to get away with your other kids, it really helps set your mind at ease and they can pick up early changes and admit you if needed.

    Well, I'll write more later today, must go be a dairy cow and then get to bed. My poor little boy has his first cold and 5 teeth coming through at once and he's not happy. Try to rest, find activities the little ones can do on the bed with you to give you a break. Stay in bed as much as possible ~ the more oxygen that bub can get, and the less moving and setting off of cramps you can do, the better. Thinking of you, BaronessM.

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    Hey again, have they given you steroids to mature bub's lungs? Three doses before the birth is optimal. Are you of a rh neg blood type? Just wondering. Try not to let your mind run away with you ~ lots of positive affirmations and calm meditation and relaxation along the lines of 'My bub is strong and my body is growing this bub healthily, and bub will stey in as long as needed, etc, helped me. I literally willed my bub to stay in. Do tell me more about the bleed when you have a mo. How it started, what colour it is, how that and the cramps have interacted, so we can compare notes. Cheers, K, Mich.

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    i have an angel watching over me, thankyou baroness... xxx

    no steroids yet, will ask for that next appt... i just have to take it easy, hmmm, well as much as i can with DS1's birthday tomorrow and all the rest...
    bleeding has eased thank god, so just think it was due to dtd on sunday night, as its only the second time that we have since falling preg, poor dp, but ah well, he will get over it... he has been so helpful with it all, though i cant restrict myself from doing things with my kids either, i have to help when and where i can...
    its hard when you dont know how long you have to go either, how do you prepare for something that is a ticking time bomb?? its just hard... mentally i am prepared, ( i think) i just would rather not have to deal with major prem, but if i have to i have to... just glad we are at 24 weeks now and starting to be listen to a lil bit more...
    ah well, off to watch greys anatomy and off to bed to try and get some sleep- not sleeping really well, just laying there worrying about things at the moment, then the 2 yr old comes in and disturbs the bed even more... lucky he is cute as a button!!
    hope everything else is going well for everyone else, and talk soon... thanks for the messages and yes i have replied for you...
    nighty night!!

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    Hey, yeah, that's so hard, the not knowing when it's going to happen at all. Hence mentioning the Fibronectin test im my PM. Happy birthday, DS (while I remember). Sounds like it's so hard to get off your feet ~ you have a life that's rather demanding of attention. Horses don't have much patience when it comes to waiting for breakfast!

    You just reminded me, I was sworn off sex by the docs from 26wks. You're right, it could be that! If you have anything placental or servical, the end of pg is boring in that way, you won't get much action! The lack of action in that dept is severely contrasted by the extreme anxiety and constant worry and fifty times more trips to hospital...

    I prepared myself by touring the SCN and familiarising myself with the current nurses on board there, monitoring twice-thrice a week really helped set me at ease, and buying smaller and smaller clothes (we all like to hold in our arms a suit the size our baby will be ~ mine were 9 zero clothes (1.25kg suits), and the more I had of them, the safer I felt, for some reason. Like I could prepare for the unpreparable. They really soothed me, and they are now on Bub's teddy bears. As I've said before, also arm yourself with as much relevant info as you can, for knowledge is power, and knowledge is empowerment. Hope all our Premmie Mums are doing well out there in BH land, BaronessM.

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    dont get me started!! we are so not organised its not funny!! well, i am thinking about it.. still have alot of 00000 stuff that ds 2 and ds 3 have used, though i know that they will be to big again, and i will need other clothes... i still have alot of things from last time, so just need stroller, capsule, and other small clothes... ( baronessM dont want to sell me some?? ) and to set everything up.. well, we will get there...
    you have me thinking though, and thank you... appreciate your knowledge and wisdom, its amazing... is the fibro test the internal swab test that they have to wait 10 mins for results to say if you will go into labour within week?? and how soon should i have the steriods?? does it matter if i have them and the bub doesnt come early?( i know positive thinking!!) just all these things going through my head, and had the most scarest nightmare last night, was so real, and woke up so upset and in tears...
    anyhow, today is ok, as i said in sms, some tightenings, but i think it could just be braxton hicks ?? and yes life is busy around here... i do love being busy though, keeps you alive... my boys help me out when i need it too, which i love, and not teaching lessons means i am home more and enjoying the kids company even more, though its making me want to get out and do more things with the kids even though i am not supposed to be doing anything( if that makes sence?)
    so i have decided if we get as far as possible i will be happy with my efforts, and hard when i cant get down to bris or nambour to get myself used to suroundings down there... so what do you do, hope that they havent changed that much since last baby!! i know again, positive thinking!!
    will know more when they hosp does ultrasound on wed and i drill the ob for a plan of attack!! it needs to happen!! dont like being in the lingo like this, and feels like i am not being listened to still with the appointments spaced so far apart... i hope that he pulld finger out and does either weekly or fortnightly appts( though i have been a good girl and getting appts with my gp also so that i have atleast an appt with a health care provider every 2 weeks... )
    on a down not, OMG i have put on alot more weight than last time!! i was underweight before though, so its ok isnt it?? lol... ah well.. i will loose it all again!! another thinking positive!! lol
    ah well... suppose its bed time, and just hope there is no more nightmares tonight!!
    thanks for keeping in touch and hope all other premmi mummies are going well out there!! this is starting to become a blog, which is great, hope everyone else doesnt mind!! night!!

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    Hi K, I love that this is becoming a blog! And I'm sure others do too. I have loads of premmie stuff I'll send you. I gave some away to the hospital and specialist midwives to distribute to other prem mums, Bubs teddies are wearing some, and even with the really sentimental few outfits left aside, I have an entire suitcase full of prem clothes of all descriptions! I'm more than happy to cull some out for you. I had so long to prepare ~ as I've said before, the one thing I could at least do for the prem bub when he came, was to clothe him and breastfeed him and be at the hospital 16 or more hours a day (mercifully, we lived 6mins away). I felt I had at least a hand in those things, even if everything else seemed completely unpredictable. So I knew in the first trimester, somewhere in me, and kept telling my partner Ad that bub's wouldn't make the due date. I thought he'd be a few weeks early. After the 26week early labour scare (when actually I had an utter conviction bub wouldn't come), I was told he'll be a little early then 35, 34, 33, no 32 weeks. I also knew he would be small for G age. By the time it was obvious bub wasn't growing anymore, it was 34weeks anyway. I was on a knife's edge those 2 weeks, worrying the doctors were leaving it too long, and I'd end up with no live baby at all. So I bought clothes...from everywhere. Mothercare do a fantastic range of prem clothes, everything folds flat and velcrs's on. I'm sure I have 1.25kg, 1.4kg and 1.7kg vests, nappy wraps (to keep their nappies on, as everything is too big for them), suits, even mini booties. I also knit, so I have tons of tiny booties. They grow so quickly, some of the clothes were seldom used, or used once. Also have brand new stuff...I was so in the habit, evertime I went to Bunting to buy prem nappies (poor bubs didn't even fit into a small flannel folded into a nappy shape...so we had to get premmie disposables...so much for an all cloth start!), I'd buy more stuff from their sale table. I have stuff he fitted into made for .8kg bubs, so I'll get more details from you on what you think you'll need, and post it to you this coming week. I might have to post it in lots... I have a capsule you could have after the family who has it at the mo, but the freight from here might be prohibitive...we can only find out. More about the clothes later. I'll pm you.

    Steroids... as far as I know, the steroids shot has, like everything, minor disadvantages, but they call it pretty safe, so doesn't matter if you have it, and bubs stays put. Any disadvantages are far outweighed by the benefits if bub is prem, lung maturation, the development of a suck and swallow reflex, breathing reflexes in general being stronger with steroids. Optimal is 3 doses before bub is born, from what I'm led to believe (I am not a medical professional) at least 24hrs apart (I think, maybe it's48hrs). I had them starting from a dose I had an hour after presenting in the hospital for the threatened pre-term labour), another before I left hospital 3days later, another 2weeks later. Drawbacks for you: sore arm, mood swings (great...more of them!). I'm sort-of surprised they didn't give them to you already, but in a worst-case scenario, they will attempt to delay labour for 24hrs to get a dose into you for bubs, and if you are really early, often a magnesium drip is used to mature the baby's brain; otherwise nefedipine and anti-tocolytic drugs; and calcium-channel blockers like mag sulf, to try arrest the early labour if it's just spontaneous. If they decide bubs needs out, they may let labour continue with heavy duty monitoring.

    Yes, the fibro test is the one you mentioned; so is good they've done that. I think you'll feel a lot better once you discuss all this with your docs, and come up with a plan. I think by 27weeks, hassling for weekly appointments would be a help. If bub is still in then, it's getting close to the gestation at which your last prem was born, and they can get things like steroids done if not done before. Fully understand wanting to do stuff and not being allowed...I felt bed-bound and hadn't exercised for 8weeks, I hated not being able to do my yoga or do much...I loved the doc-sanctioned rest, but didn't like the lack of choice, the have-to stay in bed. It was hard to stay in bed and rest with rabid morning sickness, too. I wanted to distract myself, spent 8hrs a day in the bath escaping the nausea. If I'd already had kids, it would have driven me nuts and been harder still. I'm lucky my partner works from home now, at least. Not at the time, though, I nearly went spare sitting around in bed on my own. Luckily I've a good friend who drove me places and kept me social, my natal class mums were a great support, and our families were great. I also had a house move going on from about 31weeks till 7weeks after bub was born; it took us so long as we had bubs in hospital and had no time to move...(after he got to 2.5kg and we could take him places in the car, we'd go back there to box things up and clean ~ there was no electricity, so had to change nappies by candlelight...ah, memories ~ the first few weeks at home!).

    I was underwight too, and although I gained 8kg, lost it almost straight away...you will too! It's all that fluid, baby, and organs like a placenta ~ they are super heavy even if the baby is tiny! So chill out, don't worry, running about after 4 kids will have you back to normal in no time.

    Glad to hear the contractions are settling down ~ if they feel like braxton hicks, it's probably those after-flutters that can follow the full-on painful ones of the other day (they're the ones you need to worry about). The uterus is a bit touchy after all that hyper-stimulation, and can keep on cramping ~regularly, irregularly, really mildly, or quite severely, even. As long as there is no pain, and you can't set your watch by them, they're probably ok... I found I really had to pace myself (I pushed the doc into allowing me a short walk everyday. I was allowed 15mins, but that became 2 or 3 15mins walks a day. I monitored my energy levels, if I was ok, I'd do something, if I was tired or had any cramps, I'd rest and refuse to do anything. So play it by ear, but please try to keep off your feet where you can! Remember your cervix is not a fan of gravity...

    Talk again tomorrow, must go pump milk and snooze. Bub has 3 of his 5 or 6 teeth he's cutting all at once through...yay! 3 down, 2-3 to go. Sleep well, and to all a goodnight, BaronessM.

    You sound more relaxed and breezier than a few days ago ~ and more positive in tone. Enjoy your little ones and try to rest. Keep your positive tone! Also breathe away that nasty imagery in your head. xM.
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    Default An Update ~ Kyahli currently in hospital

    Just wanted to let all thread subbies know that Kyahli has been in and out of hospital a coupla times with pre-term labour symptoms of late. She is currently in a small local hospital, and symptoms abate and she can return home to her family, rather than being transferred 2hrs away to major hospital with a NICU, unless this becomes necessary. Bubs is doing well and is healthy, currently 27weeks, but there is apparently confusion over bub's gender, with different scans revealing opposite results!

    I'm hoping others join me in wishing her the best of care and ability to get some rest while she can, despite being separated from her partner and other 3 boys at home.
    Here's to bubs hanging in there, and Kyahli feeling better soon.

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    thanks BaronessM....

    but guess where this post is coming to you from- Royal Brisbane Hospital!! so my thoughts of going home are definatly out the window ...

    wed and thursday had the steriod shots while up there just in case, but the bleeding continued and slight irregular contractions, so local hosp drs were worried, so they transfered me here on friday... they did more tests here on friday evening than what gympie had in days!! everything was hunky dory, THEN, on sat afternoon, POP, there goes me waters, and contractions started, they soon fizzled out last night and sent me back from birth suite up to ward...
    today havent had any contractions, though havent been allowed to move from bed, which is so frustrating for me as i am so active usually...
    so just sitting waiting and on all the antibiotics in the world to try and stop infection( which i am really scared about due to that happening last 2 times!! ) ...
    hopefully will have ultrasound tomorrow and see how baby is, but at this stage it is all ok... fingers xd and thanks everyone for thinking of me... will try and keep you all updated as much as possible... missing my kids, partner and home life!!
    love n hugs,
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    Kyahli I hope your bub stays in for as long as possible I just read this post and saw that initially you were worried about a pre-30 weeker, and it appears that's where you are heading. BUT, you are nearly at 28 weeks according to your ticker, so that's great! Every day is a bonus at this stage ... I hope bubs stays put for quite a few more 'bonus' days ... hopefully even some 'bonus' weeks . All the best with being stuck in bed.

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