Lochnessie - actually I'm curious as to whether you have heard anything new this time around that you didn't already know from your previous TTC? Is it still like voodoo? It seems to me like there have been no new advances for since the Colorado protocol and DHEA/luveris/growth hormone approaches. I guess we're still even now trying to achieve any definitive insight into the mechanisms of these agents with respect to IVF success. Voodoo I tells ya....... Perhaps we need a magical set of dice that can tell us which combination of everything to use for each cycle!!