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    Starfish, huge hugs. I'm not so much sad as really, really angry that you have to go through this, that the risks were not explained to you (to us - God knows I was never told about Asherman's risk) plus its so unfair, unfair, unfair that you have to go through this after all you have been through. It just shouldn't be this hard. I'm so glad that your acupuncturist was able to be there for you and to help you through the emotions of today and to support you. She was not 'blowing sunshine' - my own experience shows that it can take quite a bit of tweaking the meds .. and plain, old fashioned waiting ... before the lining comes good. There are loads of stories to this effect on the Ashermans site, as well as women whose endometrium spontaneously comes good after they abandon hormone therapy. The uterus is a mysterious thing. I'm sending you loads of cyber hugs and positive vibes, just hang in there, I don't honestly believe this is 'as good as it gets' for you, I continue to have faith that 'as good as it gets' for you is a healthy pregnancy. I know the nights can be hard after days when you get news like this. If you're up tonight and losing faith don't worry - I'll keep the faith up here for you and I'll send it back down to you when you are ready.

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    Starfish, honestly...that is just heartbreaking....I am so sorry about this to happen. It sounded so great and now this.....and a freaking parking ticket on top grrrr
    I hope this therapy will help, how long could that be going on for...anyway...before that happens, i hope your cycle will improve vastly and that next test will show a thicker lining...you so deserve some good news now.....How thick do they want it to be minimum?
    Com'on lining and grow thick...NOW!!!!! It is time to be the star of the show....
    let us know how you are and sending loads of strength your way...big hugs

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    Fiona, Trying and Swede Many of our wonderful gals have naturally moved on as they have fulfilled their dreams and it has been pretty quiet here of late, so I really appreciate all the more your kind words and offering your support. This thread has been my 'home' thread for almost 3 years (sad but true! ) and I really do feel I am amongst friends here.

    I have pulled it together a bit more today and trying to put it out of mind till Friday. After all there's nothing more I could possibly do. Can only keep my mind open that a slow and steady approach might see me get to the minimum I need, which is 6mm for my FS.

    Trying, it does still feel really unfair and I just don't know how many more times I can pick myself up than I already have. I really believed that going through these surgeries and the good results I had would translate into a better outcome. I have been back on the AS website trawling for good news stories and yes you are right in some cases patience has won out with thin linings, and of course many bubba's are conceived on thin linings too. Your beautiful words really touched me and I appreciate your offer to keep the faith for me for the time being

    Did you end up making any decisions as yet about your frosty?

    Swede, I'm still really, really stoked for you lovely and looking forward to following your journey to no.2 Please keep us updated all the way!

    I for one could do with the distraction and welcome updates from other 35+ers as well! So sick of reading back over these pages and seeing it full of my own woes!

    Fi, I saw the photos of little man Indy. SOOOOOOO GORGEOUS!! You do make beautiful bubbas xx

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    Swedeendie, just read back over your posts and wanted to say a big fat congratulations! Hope things keep on proceeding well, bring on the bubba!

    Starfish, I saw my FS a few weeks ago now. Am still gutted that she is retiring, I really don't feel comfortable going ahead with someone else. Seeing her reminded me of what she said to me when my own lining came up thin after the hysteroscopy, she was remarkably unworried by my thin lining (I was devastated) and she told me that so long as there was some endometrium there it was just a question of finding the right mix of medications to get it to respond. For me as you know it was endogenous oestrogen but she floated with me at the time the option of using FSH, pointing out that some women just respond better to one or the other. Certainly she made it clear that there were quite a few options in terms of hormonal stimulation. I can understand how you feel, I can sense the frustration and anger and I know how it feels to be able to almost touch the end of your emotional tolerance for pain and disappointment. Its just that honestly I think there are many options for fixing this issue for you. But if you can't go there right now that's okay, I'm still going to keep on keeping the faith for you

    AFM my FS was kind enough to write up a treatment plan for how she would approach an FET. She suspects there will still be issues with my lining which surprised me as I had assumed that a successful pregnancy would mean no further issues with the endometrium but apparently not. I have to wait six months minimum after the C-Section before I do the FET. DH won't agree to a new fresh cycle so after this transfer that will be it for us. We don't have a great record on defrosting so there's every chance this one won't defrost and we'll have nothing to transfer, but I feel like I want to give this one every chance. Will probably look at doing it in January/February next year, I feel like I want to get this over with so that I can move on with my life either way. We'll probably go with the FS who is taking over the practice, at least she will have all my records and will hopefully respect the protocol my FS has written up. Meanwhile I will really have to work on shaking all the weight I have gained.

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    Starfish, sweet, my heart breaks for you, it is so hard being in a thread for so long and watching people get their bubba's. I know that while I was always happy for everyone it just made my struggle hurt more. It is so extremely unfair. You know that it was too hard for me eventually and I had to make that tough decision to stop which was a really shattering decision. You still have a few years on me so I hope you will take sanity breaks when needed but persevere until a natural conclusion one wy or another occurs.
    All I can say is that regardless of research and facts and statistics it all seems so random, it really is chance I reckon. Miracles can and do happen, but I know that reality is harsh ... I hope that makes sense.
    It is such a tormenting journey we travel, incredible strength is needed and not many people can truly understand how hard and heartbreaking it is.
    You are an absolute light on this forum, and have brought me smiles and comfort many many times.
    Sending you so much love xxx

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    Starfish This is so not fair, it makes me angry that you have had to go through this c**p I am however going to remain optimistic that your lining is going to thicken before Friday I wish I could gve you some advice to help but sadly I don't know anything about AS apart from what I read from you & Trying. I'm so glad you have such great support from trying & that she is proof that miracles do happen.

    Trying sounds like a good plan for your FET, I will have everything crossed it defrosts & you get UTD We said we would use our frosties up (when trying for #2) & give up after that We are now onto our 5th stim, I'm hoping number 6 is our lucky number, we conceived DS on our 6th stim.

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    Starfish, I will be thinking of you tomorrow - hoping for a much improved lining result on your scan . Still keeping the faith lovely

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    Hey girls - 1stly to starfish - good luck today babe, hope you get some better news !!!! What is it with us 75r club - just can't catch a break can we more on me later... I really do hope you lining is better today and you can share some better news with us sooner rather than later

    Fiona - congrats on the birth of your son- you and DH sound like very proud parents we're so happy that you finally got your little miracle what a blessing

    Sweedeendie - way to go!!! What did you do to get your natural BFP??? Anything exciting?

    Lochbessie - sorry to hear of your bfn hope your 5ww o see FS comes quickly and your well on your way to your little miracle

    Trying for 2 - hope all goes well with getting in tip top shape in the next 6 months - enough time for your little bubsicles to hang on tight an wait for game day!!!

    Hi I everyone else - its been so quiet in here lately but hey it's winter and your all prob hibernating with your little miracles - keep warm!!!

    Afm - well still continuing with herbs and Accupuncture and bbt charting - had my NANs funeral last week (thx for the kind words ladies) been sick all week this week with a damn cold and twitching eye!!! Soooo frustrating... And to top of my fabulous week (not!!!) my DH lent our 2nd car to a m8 who decided to get it into a car accident!! Gee wizz- try and do the right thing and help people out and you just get kicked when your down oh well enough of my sob story - time to perk up and get ready for the weekend - lol - take care girls

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    Swede, are you having further bts or waiting it out till 6/7 week scan now?

    Trying, It is hard leaving an FS you have so much history with and great faith in but I am encouraged to hear she has been willing to put together a protocol for you for next time. It would be really fabulous to see you get another bub post AS and interesting to see what these pesky lining issues will do, but so hopeful for you since you got to 8mm last time (I can only dream of such numbers, but more on that later!). Might need you to hold that hope a bit longer...

    Fi, I know you get it Thanks for your beautiful words of support, they mean alot.

    Nessie
    , 6 sounds like your lucky number!

    Crofty, I'm so sorry to hear you are having such a rough trot at the moment Hoping though that you might bring home another natural BFP to our thread!

    AFM, thanks EVERYONE for your words of support and well wishes for today, unfortunately absolutely no change whatsoever and still at 4mm

    Bts are consistently showing that I am absorbing the various sources of estrogen with no problems, so it is much more likely to be a vascular issue.

    Surprisingly I haven't been canned yet. FS has doubled the dosage of the tablets (which I suggested on Monday! ), but I really don't believe this will have any effect. I have been having a really good think about the vascular issue and looking over my results as by all accounts my last MRI showed a 'normal' uterus post 2nd surgery and the endo, while thin, is uniform and not patchy, which is a positive sign.

    Prof V sent me an email after he had reviewed the MRI results saying there is still a 'minimal delay' in vascular filling, and he felt this would improve over time, so I'm wondering if/when the cycle is cancelled about taking a couple of months off to give it some time to do it's thing. The catch 22 is that the more time that lapses the greater the possibility of the scarring returning which raises the possibility of needing more surgeries and I don't think I can go there again.

    I have emailed Prof V this morning and sought his opinion on this and will follow FS's plans till next scan Tuesday, but it is becoming increasingly demoralising going to scan after scan with no real progress and it is SOOOOOO frustrating having my beautiful frosties sitting there and not being able to use them

    Planning on spending the afternoon looking into options for a really fab scuba diving holiday in September...anyone been to the Cook islands?

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    Crofty...oh no..your poor car...how crap is that ....
    I did actually do a few things different, I have been on DHEA for 2 months and coq10 for about a month, as I wanted to increase my chances doing a fresh cycle I thought. Who knows if this was the trick to a natural bfp??? PLust I did baby aspiring which I did with Archie as well.
    The absolute weird part is the charting bit; I done bbt charting for about 30 cycles and it is always very obvious when I ovulate etc. This month I had really high temps pre-ovulation and extremly low temps after ovulation. I did opk's to make sure I got ovulation right on spot with the temps and Fertility friend even says that I havnt ovulated, so I stopped taking my temp on day 7 as they where os freaking low and I thought that dhea had stuffed up my cycle so bad that it was a dud cycle.....So, opk showed me I had ovulation on day 16 which is late anyway...Then I get a freaking bfp...just couldn't believe it

    Starfish, Oh no!!!!!!!Hoping with my heart that those tablets will do the trick.....I cant even imagine how hard it would be to just wait and wait. It must be so frustrating...BUT..I am sure you will get there..as soon as you can transfer one of your little embies there will be a big fat plus; I am certain of it.....your little champions will be just hold on to the right moment....
    Non th less; huge hugs of encouragement goes to you and the lining and all that need o work......
    holidays sounds divine

    I had another beta today as I been spotting and spotting..grrrr...such worry, but today I feel a bit different to before, sort of a heavy feeling around uterus rather than cramps and my bt today was 935 at 18 dpo and prog was 91, which is very good numbers. The doctor has given me another bt for monday due to the spotting and I will ask for a 7 week heartbeat scan at that time.


 

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