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    Hi all.

    I am 35 weeks pregnant & have a partner who is working full time earning around $45k. I've just started maternity leave within the last 2 weeks. We are not living together as we have had some relationship problems & are working on these. I was advised to claim parenting payment - Single as we are living separately & have no intention of living together until our relationship is more stable.

    I went into Centrelink on Friday to lodge some paperwork for my PPL (proof of citizenship etc) and enquired into PPS, and the lady there mentioned that if I was wanting to claim it I would have to have an open Child Support Case.. I asked at this time if we had a private agreement would I still have to lodge a case through CSA - she said no, that I simply need to contact them to find out what he should be paying.

    I'm a bit confused, we don't plan on having a child support agreement as such.. We are just not living together and he is not financially supporting me. Can anyone advise on I can do here? I don't fall into the category of a de-facto & he's not supporting me so Parenting Payment Partnered doesn't cover this?

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    When I left my ex DF, CSA contacted me too. I told them we were planning on having a private agreement. They were fine with that. Just sent a letter out saying how much he should be paying, but that was up to us if he paid or not. And he never did as per our private agreement.

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    To claim PPS, you must have a child support agreement unless there is a court order exempting it.

    Your PPS is adjusted according to what you are supposed to be paid in child support, even if the other parent is not paying child support.

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    Have u called the child support agency or looked at there website? From what I read you can lodge your own agreement or you will only get the minimum ftb part a which is around $80 per child (not sure on the exact amount) if you choose to not lodge an agreement you still get PPS.

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    Oh okay.. I'll check out the CSA website. It seems a bit ridiculous to have to have a court order exempting him from paying CS in order to claim PPS though so hopefully that isn't the case!

    Thermolicious - I think I remember her saying something about it only affecting FTB if I don't lodge an agreement now that I think about it. Hopefully I get some clarity from their website. With bub due so soon I am just wanting to sort out my finances and see what I am looking at payment wise.. Thanks ladies

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    It affects your payment either way. Your FTB gets reduced based on the amount of CS you are supposed to receive. Trust me on this, I have been on PPS for several years.

    Court orders are pretty much for people who refuse or have nothing to do with the child or to force people to pay CS. None of which sounds like your situation.

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    I guess that's why I am confused, because I don't want to lodge an agreement but you mentioned I had to unless there was a court order exempting me from having one. It's a tough one because I don't know where I stand, am I a 'single' parent or am I a partnered parent..? From what I have been told by Clink I am a single parent, but then to be told I have to lodge a CS agreement says otherwise. But then I don't fall into a 'partnered' status either because he isn't living here or supporting me. I also want to make sure everything is done correctly, because I don't want to end up being paid too little/too much.

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    Can anyone advise on I can do here?
    Go into Centrelink and speak to an officer who specialises in the Parenting Payment benefit. You can ask for this to happen.

    What you have been advised is not correct. As Ana has also pointed out, you don't have to have a CSA in place. To all intents and purposes, you are single, pregnant, have no income, are a citizen and are therefore entitled to apply for Newstart. You can't receive PPS until you have the baby (but you can get the ball rolling). However, while you wait for your baby to arrive (being 35 weeks) you can receive Newstart and you will get an exemption from working while on Newstart. If you get grief over this and an officer won't do it for you (for whatever reason) you can ask to see a Centrelink Psych who will give you a job capacity assessment and put a block on your record citing this. Once bub arrives you are transitioned to PPS and, should your circumstances change (get back with ex), you can easily transition to PPP. He doesn't earn enough for you to be cut off.

    For Centrelink purposes, they don't care if you are married, de-facto or what. All they care about is whether you are living with a person you are in a sexual relationship with and if so when that r'ship started. As you are not currently living with anyone you don't have to tell them you have a partner because, essentially, you don't.

    You don't have to tell them who the father of your baby is either or any other details pertaining to your impending birth. It doesn't matter. A good Centrelink officer will tell you this.

    You don't have to tell them anything other that you are pregnant, that you can prove it (if this is your first child they'll ask for a certificate from your health practitioner stating when bub is due) and when you are due. This is used to calculate what payments you are eligible for and when you will get them.

    Apart from providing proof of birth after the bub arrives, that is pretty much it.

    If you get further grief at Centrelink either go to another office or ask to have an appointment to see a Social Worker. You are entitled to do this.

    Don't bother with the Call Centre. They are hopeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MumToBeat23 View Post
    It's a tough one because I don't know where I stand, am I a 'single' parent or am I a partnered parent..? From what I have been told by Clink I am a single parent, but then to be told I have to lodge a CS agreement says otherwise. But then I don't fall into a 'partnered' status either because he isn't living here or supporting me.
    *confused* Having to lodge a child support assessment says you are single- and the father should be paying to support the baby financially, based on both your incomes and how much care you have of the child.

    I was in exactly the same situation with my ex for a while- you have to lodge an assessment if you are classed as a single parent, alternatively you can not lodge one and receive only the base rate of Family Tax Benefit (which isn't much.) Personally I couldn't afford not to lodge, so I did and they sent us an assessment saying he should be paying X amount.

    It's up to you then what you do with it. You can keep it as "private arrangement" meaning they update the assessment periodically and just send you a bit of paper, and that's it. Bear in mind though that your family tax benefit will be reduced if he's supposed to be paying a reasonable amount, so you will lose money if he isn't supporting you at all.

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    [QUOTE=Caviar;6267256]



    You don't have to tell them who the father of your baby is either or any other details pertaining to your impending birth. It doesn't matter. A good Centrelink officer will tell you this.

    You don't have to tell them anything other that you are pregnant, that you can prove it (if this is your first child they'll ask for a certificate from your health practitioner stating when bub is due) and when you are due. This is used to calculate what payments you are eligible for and when you will get them.

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    For PPS, yes, but if you wish to receive full Family Tax Benefit (a good $350/fn or so) you have to "take reasonable steps to obtain child support". The only way around this is to lie and say you don't know who the father is or where to contact him.

    It could potentially be problematic down the track if he decides he wants involvement in the child's life. The only other option is to apply for an exemption, or settle for Base Rate FTB.


 

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