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    I agree, DL has answered the question very well. His views are universal.

    It seems that yours, on the other hand, are not, as you seem to think it is a ridiculous suggestion that consenting adults (3) may want to get married. Do you not think that they should be free to get married too?
    No your suggesting that 3+ people getting married is the same as 2 people getting married which is why it's a stupid comparison. Why don't you minus the gender of the couple and look at it that way, is polygamy now on the same boat??

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    I certainly don't think it is a done deal but it gives me hope that same sex couples can enjoy the same choices and rights that heterosexuals have. It is only a matter of time................

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    Yeah I don't think it will happen sadly. The religious zealot Abbott will do what he always does and bring his own religious beliefs into the political arena bc that's his constant agenda. His bigotry makes me want to throw up in my mouth...

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    And i don't get how people can be against calling gay marriage "marriage" ... as sassy mummy has already said, a same sex couple getting married does not devalue hetero marriage, nor negatively impact on anyone else. If the word and concept of marriage were so special and sacred that it may only be applied to a union between a man and a women, wouldn't there be harsher penalties for infidelity and wouldnt divorce be abolished? Infidelity and divorce do more to damage the sanctomony of marriage than gay couples...

    And allowing gay couples to have a a civil union but not a marriage is not equality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Trooper View Post
    Infidelity and divorce do more to damage the sanctomony of marriage than gay couples...
    Agreed, and sadly hetro couples have a 60% cheat rate and a 50% divorce rate... so who is ruining the 'sanctity' of marriage I wonder?

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    One day we will be all treated equally, I have faith in that.
    If you really want 'all treated equally', I think there are more important issues than this.
    For example, the disgusting treatment of LGBT people in Palestine. You cannot be openly gay in the Palestinian Authority. People have had to flee TO Israel in order to avoid abuse, including torture and murder, from the Palestinian people including the police. This treatment is disgusting and a much more important human right than 'marriage'. But despite this, I have yet to see a protest against the Palestinian treatment of homosexuals. Why is this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily of the Nile View Post
    No your suggesting that 3+ people getting married is the same as 2 people getting married which is why it's a stupid comparison. Why don't you minus the gender of the couple and look at it that way, is polygamy now on the same boat??
    In fairness, I think that the comparison was drawn because of the absolute in my post. The question was based more on my assertion that grown adults can make their own decisions and where I would draw the line, rather than being a direct comparison between the two.

    At least I HOPE it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyLarge View Post
    The question was based more on my assertion that grown adults can make their own decisions and where I would draw the line, rather than being a direct comparison between the two.

    At least I HOPE it was.
    Yes it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    If you really want 'all treated equally', I think there are more important issues than this.
    For example, the disgusting treatment of LGBT people in Palestine. You cannot be openly gay in the Palestinian Authority. People have had to flee TO Israel in order to avoid abuse, including torture and murder, from the Palestinian people including the police. This treatment is disgusting and a much more important human right than 'marriage'. But despite this, I have yet to see a protest against the Palestinian treatment of homosexuals. Why is this?
    All due respect, but that is a pretty silly diversionary argument. Citizens of this country are able to affect the laws in this country, making protest and campaigning an effective and useful tool.

    I would also suggest that there is an element of "glass houses" in play. Any such protest wouldn't have a great deal of validity or impact if our own house isn't in order first.

    Human rights throughout the Arab world is abysmal, and I don't see it changing any time soon. I could list a dozen examples (treatment of homosexuals definitely being one of them) of things that are horrible and should change - as Australians, the best way we can help effect that change is to set the example of being a country that is able to achieve success while shunning bigotry.

    If the treatment of homosexuals in the Palestinian territories aggrieves you, the feel free to start that protest and best of luck to you. I'm a pragmatist - I believe that my efforts can help achieve a necessary change in this country, so that's where my energies will be focused.

    But the fact that there are countries elsewhere treat their gay community worse than we do doesn't excuse us from getting rid of blatant discrimination here. Nor does it make the push to redress this discrimination any less valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    So would I be correct to assume that you would also support and endorse polygamy then?

    Hell yes I would


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    Polygamy is not something I would partake in, but if it involves consenting adults, who am I to judge?

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