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    Default Opinions on Long daycare V Family daycare V Nanny

    Taking finances out of the equation, could people please give their opinions on what type of childcare would be best for a 12mth old when I return to full-time work next year. Particularly interested in hearing from those that have perhaps tried more than one option?

    E.g. Is one on one care better than socialisation/interaction in a larger group for development? Can your child grow 'too attached' to a single nanny? What learning structures can be put in place with a nanny/fdc?

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    I think it depends on your child but m 2 love the 1 day they have at a big CCC but they are both very social

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    If money was no obstacle I'd definitely go with a nanny. I don't think there's such a thing as "too attached". Attachment is sooo important, especially at such a young age. Nannies can socialise as much as the kid likes - go on playdates, go to the park, etc. Our nanny has my kid at his Tae Kwon Do lesson right now, then they will go to the park with some of my sons friends from Tae Kwon Do, then they will ride the buses or trains or do whatever my son wants. She takes him to the museum and he learns a lot from her. He's three and can read and type (it's the modern age quite well and that's all from the nanny, not us. He is also in child care in a big council run centre. It's great and unfortunately due to finances we are letting the nanny go and increasing his cc days. If we had more money we would never do this. It's not that I don't think cc is good for him, but he loves his nanny, and he has so many wonderful opportunities when he goes out with her. I've never done family day care so can't comment on that, but we did have him in a smaller private ccc before and the care was not as good my poor baby had the same nappy on when he came home for dinner as I put on him at breakfast.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lulululu View Post
    If money was no obstacle I'd definitely go with a nanny. I don't think there's such a thing as "too attached". Attachment is sooo important, especially at such a young age. Nannies can socialise as much as the kid likes - go on playdates, go to the park, etc. Our nanny has my kid at his Tae Kwon Do lesson right now, then they will go to the park with some of my sons friends from Tae Kwon Do, then they will ride the buses or trains or do whatever my son wants. She takes him to the museum and he learns a lot from her. He's three and can read and type (it's the modern age quite well and that's all from the nanny, not us. He is also in child care in a big council run centre. It's great and unfortunately due to finances we are letting the nanny go and increasing his cc days. If we had more money we would never do this. It's not that I don't think cc is good for him, but he loves his nanny, and he has so many wonderful opportunities when he goes out with her. I've never done family day care so can't comment on that, but we did have him in a smaller private ccc before and the care was not as good my poor baby had the same nappy on when he came home for dinner as I put on him at breakfast.


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    Thanks for that info, very helpful. With a nanny, do you just pay their hourly/daily fee? Or as an employer do you have to provide super etc? What's the average cost of a nanny?

    As for your LO wearing same nappy all day - that's disgusting and would hVe been so uncomfortable I hope your reported them for neglect, there's no excuse for that.

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    I'm a nanny, so feel free to ask me any questions!

    I personally don't think socialisation is a problem with nannies at all, unless you have a terrible nanny who doesn't do activities with the kids.

    Cost: I cost $20/hr so it is expensive. The family I look after are doing nanny share 3 days a week with another family, so they pay $110/day 3 days a week but the whole $220/day on the other two. They don't pay me super or anything though. Most privately arranged nannies won't expect it, but if you go through an agency it's included in their fees. I think for privately arranged nannies (find a babysitter type recruitment), $20/hr is about usual.

    Stuff: on the 3 days a week I have 2x14 month olds, we can't drive as I only have one car seat for the moment. They live in inner city Sydney though, so we still: go to the park, go to the pool, go on long walks, go for local play dates with mothers group friends or my friends/family with young kids, get the bus to the beach or into town for lunch with their mummies, fun stuff at home etc. On the days I only have one, we will drive to play centres, the beach (can stay longer), to friends with young kids who live further away, to the shops etc.

    I also do a few householdy things like hanging out washing, keeping toys etc tidy.

    The kids see loads of other kids when I'm with them so I don't think they're at all disadvantaged in a social setting. Their mum's also love that I picture message them throughout the day so they can see what their little ones are up to.

    My hours are long and tiring, but the advantage is that on days off, DP often comes and we'll take the kids to the pool or beach as it's easier with two sets of hands. They also don't mind if I have to run my own errands. The family I nanny for look after me extremely well as do the family they're nanny sharing with. If you look after a good nanny well, you have a good thing going on!

    ETA: They pulled their DS out of day care when they rocked up one day and he was sitting in a corner wearing only a full nappy, crying.

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    Sorry, I realised this was in the Victoria section. I'm in NSW, so I don't know if things are any different down south!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbow road View Post
    I'm a nanny, so feel free to ask me any questions!

    I personally don't think socialisation is a problem with nannies at all, unless you have a terrible nanny who doesn't do activities with the kids.

    Cost: I cost $20/hr so it is expensive. The family I look after are doing nanny share 3 days a week with another family, so they pay $110/day 3 days a week but the whole $220/day on the other two. They don't pay me super or anything though. Most privately arranged nannies won't expect it, but if you go through an agency it's included in their fees. I think for privately arranged nannies (find a babysitter type recruitment), $20/hr is about usual.

    Stuff: on the 3 days a week I have 2x14 month olds, we can't drive as I only have one car seat for the moment. They live in inner city Sydney though, so we still: go to the park, go to the pool, go on long walks, go for local play dates with mothers group friends or my friends/family with young kids, get the bus to the beach or into town for lunch with their mummies, fun stuff at home etc. On the days I only have one, we will drive to play centres, the beach (can stay longer), to friends with young kids who live further away, to the shops etc.

    I also do a few householdy things like hanging out washing, keeping toys etc tidy.

    The kids see loads of other kids when I'm with them so I don't think they're at all disadvantaged in a social setting. Their mum's also love that I picture message them throughout the day so they can see what their little ones are up to.

    My hours are long and tiring, but the advantage is that on days off, DP often comes and we'll take the kids to the pool or beach as it's easier with two sets of hands. They also don't mind if I have to run my own errands. The family I nanny for look after me extremely well as do the family they're nanny sharing with. If you look after a good nanny well, you have a good thing going on!

    ETA: They pulled their DS out of day care when they rocked up one day and he was sitting in a corner wearing only a full nappy, crying.
    Thank-you so much for your detailed response and apologies for taking so long to respond. I have only just noticed this thread updated (been having issues with the App!).

    So if they are paying $220 per day, am I right in calculating that you work a 10 hour day??? That's an awfully long day for you, you must be taken care of well!

    So what do you do in terms of super? Also do you get paid holidays , is that expected from the family? Do you know if the government provides a rebate for private nannies like yourself?

    I love how much you do with the kids and think the kids would befit greatly from that 1:1 time with you. Is that amount of activity normal or do you ho above and beyond in your profession?
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    There is little doubt that for a twelve month old, a nanny would be the best option. They need close care and attention that shared care just cannot provide. Even family day care could have up to four kds f that age - its too much IMO.
    Having a carer in our home was the best thing ever. She had three of ours most of the time, sometimes two sometimes all four, but they got love, attention, their needs responded to, comfort and routines of their own home... We got to go to work relaxed, leaving them in their pjs, knowing they would be well cared for. Once they hit three I think day care becomes a good option, especially for the social side of things. But they can also get that from three year old kinder, which a nanny could take them to. Having and a baby in long day care once, I swore I would never do it again.

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    Oh and our carer did planned activities every day, took them to play group and kinder, and went out and about sometimes, always asking me first. She could also ahv them if they were a bit unwell, not contagious of course, but a cou or cold which I wouldn't have sent them to daycare but she could ahvr them at home and take care of them.


 

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