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    jayemkayare is offline Miracles don't just happen, they take hard work and determination.
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    M2O – Sorry about that hon, I’m having a hard time keeping up with everyone. Should have read your signature. What supplements are you taking? Do you know if your lab provides feed back on what the eggs looked like? Definatley an issue there. I know how if feels with repeated failed IVF believe me but you aren’t a looser You’ve had a pregnancy before so you know there is nothing drastic with your lining and the actually pregnant part, just need to solve the quality issue and there is plenty you can do. When is your next FS appointment, I think you need a plan and some solid answers

    I had 2 AMH tests done before IVF, the second because my original FS was convinced the lab had made an error and 2 more after the DHEA..... all the same result Like you I’m at a loos, my mum had 4, my sister has 2 accidents, my brother even has 5 Strangely enough, I’m the only one who actually has a secure job and stable relationship...... now that’s where I’m going wrong maybe.

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    Hi Ladies
    Just popping in to say Hello -- am waiting for AF so I can start cycle #9, already feeling anxious, and a little angry that it is taking so long! Dreading Christmas ! Have been on DHEA now for nearly 3 months (& coq10, and fish oil and ...stuff) , hoping it has done it's job as the embies are getting better each time but I don't know how much more of this I can take ! Have told DH he needs to decide if he wants to use donor eggs and do something about it because I am sick of being the one carrying everything and forging ahead. I sent him an advert to proof months ago and he has done nothing with it. Thinking about going back to Acupuncture but the lady I go to is away tioll mid December.

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    cjm1 Welcome, I can well imagine that you are beyond fed up, however pleased to hear that there is improvement with embies & hopefully you will get lucky with #9 but it's good that you are prepared to look at other options. I have recently met a terrific Mum of one DS aged 2 & she confided in me that he was conceived with a donor egg & surrogacy. It really helped me to put things into perspective as someone who has considered donor eggs herself. Good luck & a lot of us on Dhea here including me.

    LG sorry that this wasn't your cycle, join those of us who are hoping for a lucky 2012 BFP

    Jaye I so know what you mean about family being extremely fertile, my mum had 4 kids, my sis 3 by 24 & so on. I'm the oldest & everyone had such dysfunctional lives my Mum doesn't speak to any of her 4 kids or see her 7 grandchildren. I thought I'd be smart & wait till I had my life on track, good relationship blah blah only to find out that I'd prematurely run out of eggs. I should of got UTD to my pot smoking looser bf 20yrs ago & I could have had 4 or 5 delinquents by now

    M20 How are you? Hope you are getting some rest, it's so hard not to think that our eggs are crappy but we just have to find the good ones, I'm sure they are there - I'm really hoping that our good eggs are going to come out from their hiding place for next cycles - I agree with you that there is something in feeling contented & at peace & yes I think my iron levels may be low

    Linds ha ha, AF just finished so can't be UTD, glad you are enjoying your new home, have you got Christmas tree up yet for DS?


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    Ness - Thanks. I'm feeling a little more positive than I was yesterday, stopped blubbing and pulled myself together in the end yesterday arvo.

    Spoke to FN this morning though and she says I still have to have BT on Weds and that I still have to keep taking Crinone, which I am not altogether thrilled about due to current conditions!!

    Have appointment with FS on 5th so hopefully she will have some more tricks up her sleeve!!

    I am going to gather as much info as I can between now and Monday on Melatonin, DHEA etc and see what she says. Wish I could take one of you girls with me really as I've learnt more from you than from the Dr's.

    Here's hoping that 2012 will be the year for us all

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    LG38, it's awful when we have to continue with crinone and do BT even with AF and BFN test strips as FN always says we could be pregnant even with AF. That feeling is so hard to describe but it is just awful.

    Are you with Monash IVF Clayton? Who is your FS? Mine is Dr Lawrence. Ask your FS if she can tell you any thing about egg quality for this cycle you had. I bet she would say yes it is possible egg quality is an issue but it is inconclusive...I think I have the model answer BUT I do hope she can help you with your questions. I am curious about DHEA but I cannot ask my FS until 3 Jan when I see him. Hopefully yours have something to say about it.

    Ness, yes I have read ladies on other forums where they got a bad batch of eggs on one cycle and then a good batch of eggs on the next which gave them their BFP. They did have a bit of changes to their protocols. So I am thinking protocol could be it to getting good and bad eggs therefore good and bad embryos...but this is what I gathered and there is no scientific proof and I am no IVF specialist myself.

    My iron level was low at one point too. It is not normalized after taking Spa-Tone. You may want to try it. My friend who is a pharmacist said that it is really good and wont cause constipation. With so much blood taken from us (BTs), we have better put some back.

    Hi CJM1! It is frustrating to have to wait and wait right? I mean it is not that we are impatient but doing IVF also involves a lot of waiting time which is quite beyond our control...waiting for private health insurance to become effective, waiting for AF, waiting for doc appt, waiting for scans/BT/procedures/results, etc etc etc wait wait wait...

    Jaye, sometimes I tell myself 'I managed to have DS' and 'I did get pregnant again but miscarried'..etc but these do not stop me from being negative. It is hard to cling onto past victories when there are present failures. DH & I can only remind ourselves to be thankful for those experiences and for DS. And that does not stop us from wanting more children. It's weird really. What I can say is we are not ready to give up yet and will continue to battle on.

    I am on a lot of supplements including multi-vits, folic acid, coQ10, fish oil. All these on top of TCM brews. I have included Vit C and royal jelly recently.

    AFM : I am feeling more positive today. I think I should really chill out and enjoy every day as I work towards the goal. I missed being intimate with DH ...we have stayed away from each other since I started IVF last month. He is due for his SCSA this Wednesday. Cannot touch him till he finishes that cos TCM practitioner said must let him rest...

    I have spoken to my FS' secretary and he said there wont be a D&C, just lap and hysteroscopy.

    Have a lovely week everybody!!!

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    M2O - Yes I am with Monash Clayton. My FS is Nicole Hope. I am booked to see her again on Monday 5th and I am going to try and get as much info from her as poss. I'm sure you are right and she will try and keep it vague, but I'm hoping that she will try something different next time and that she is open to the possibility of DHEA as I ahve heard that a lot of FS are not. I just want to get on with it as I worry that I am 38 and never managed to conceive at all so far.

    For now I refuse to believe that anything could survive this AF, its truly awful as mine usually are but this one is even more painful than normal. The joys of endometriosis!!

    Glad you are feeling a little better, its so hard and emotional for us and staying positive is the hardest thing to do sometimes. I felt better today than yesterday but still had a few dips. I think I will feel better when I see FS and we have another plan.

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    LG My FS was the one who put me on Dhea, was the first I'd heard of it so some are definitely agreeable. It's so understandable that you would still be up & down right now. There is no easy way out when we have had our hopes dashed yet again, but it does help when we have a back up plan, some answers & another cycle to give us hope again.

    M20 thanks for the tip about Spa-tone will add that to all the other stuff. Secondary Infertility hurts doesn't it - it's so confusing because you feel so grateful & blessed on one hand & then so cheated by not being able to have another child. When in depressions about sec. infertility I end up feeling guilty because I'm grieving instead of being 100% in the moment for DD. Great that you are feeling more positive & enjoy some time with DH soon.

    AFM Now that we are finally settling into new house, have been meeting lots of new ppl and keeping busy which means less time to dwell on negative stuff. It's about getting the balance right isn't it

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    LG38, were you on an antagonist cycle? What does gonal F were you on? DO you have your AMH? We are similar in age and both of us have lower ovarian reserve. I am just wondering what Dr Hope put you on? I was twice put on 450IU and wonder if that compromise egg quality. We can think of questions together to give your FS.

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    I found this US website that sells DHEA and very cheap.

    http://www.puritan.com/dhea-522/dhea-25-mg-003421

    You ladies reckon it is a Same thing as what your FS prescribed?

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    Ness - What state are you in? I have not come across many in Melb that have been prescribed DHEA.
    I am definitely feeling better than I was, I think because I ahve been applying myself to more research. Its a very hard journey though and I have every respect for those of you that have been down this road a few times now. I think you are spot on about getting the balance right however hard it is to do.

    M2O - I was on antagonist cycle 450 dose of Gonal. I'm not sure what my AMH was, to be honest I was just focused on the low antral follicle count and I think a lot of the other stuff passed me by at the time. I have been writing a lot of notes though the last few days so that I can get some answers, let me know if there is anything you want me to ask when I go, January is a long time to wait.
    I have been researching DHEA like crazy the last few days. I have 2 auto immune diseases (Rheumatoid Arthritis and Diabetes) and DHEA is supposed to be very good for both of those. I think that if my FS does not want to prescribe it to me I am going to buy it anyway from one of the sites in America, I will check out the one that you have found also. I will tell FS that I am going to do it so she is fully aware of what is going on. DH says that I am a walking case study for the stuff


 

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