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    Linds - Sorry to hear AF arrived. However, good to hear that you love your new home.

    M2O - Also sorry to hear it was BFN. Good luck with the new cycle and jabbing.

    LG - hang in there - we hope to hear good news soon.

    Jaye - Good to see you back, although wish it was better news. All that bleeding sounds awful. I hope your appointment with FS went well.

    Smurf - Hanging out for good news from your scan.

    Hi Nessika, Patient, Millie, MrsOC, Spot, everyone else.

    AFM - Scan by nurse yesterday showed that the lining had gone up to 7mm but the follie was gone. She thinks I may have ovulated on Tuesday. I had also been doing OPK's which showed a peak on Mon night. I have been asked to do a blood test for Prog next Tue. DH and I have been doing BD every night for the last week - I think he is getting exhausted and was happy for a reprieve last night.

    DH and I have an appointment with a new FS next Tuesday.
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    Hey ladies,

    I am in limbo land today...supposed to start jabbing tonight but after discussion with DH this morning, we most likely decide to have a laparoscopy on me mid-Dec to assess my womb condition.

    I never had endometrosis diagnosed and never had its symptoms but this is something our new FS encouraged me to do and I have put it on hold to do that last cycle. My AF is really weird this month...still coming but in trickles...it made me very teary and emotional yesterday esp the fact that my lining is a whopping 17mm and this tiny bit of AF is illogical. The thought of doing lap through the belly button scares the hell out of me but I think it is a common procedure and I should overcome my fear and get on with it.

    At the same time we are thinking of doing SCSA for DH but wow it cost several hundreds and not sure if we get anything back at all...

    Now waiting for FS' secretary to call back.

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    Ness, just saw your post...I am very very sure that fertile people or people who get their children very easily never will understand those are on the opposite end. It is just human I guess. It is always when we are put into a similar situation that we begin to understand and empathize with others. However this really put supposedly close friendships to the test. I lost some 'best' friends and gain some true best friends on this journey.

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    M2O - I had Laparoscopy, Hysteroscopy, D&C and laser treatment last year to treat endometriosis and check out the rest of the baby making equipment. They only make a few small incisions and its a little uncomfortable afterward but not much more so than EPU.

    I guess really that none of this stuff is what you would call comfortable but its not too bad. At least if its endo they can treat it with laser. I personally did not get much relief with AF after ( mine are just bad) but some people do and some people also fall pregnant after having it done (again not me but it does happen)

    Ness - Totally agree re the fertile ones I have told a few close to me on occasion to engage brain before opening mouth although I think the Crinone has decreased my tolerance somewhat

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    LG38, thanks for your sharing! The word 'small' sounds reassuring to me! So it didnt hurt going through the belly button? I thought it is a very sensitive part of our body. Why do you have to do both lap and hysteroscopy? I thought one is sufficient? I did a hyster last Sept and all ok except one tiny polyp. That was under old FS and he felt I neednt do any invasive lap.

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    Firstly just wanting to wish everyone in here lots of luck with their cycles.


    Ladies I just wondered if I might be able to ask some advise re the use of luveris/pregnyl/saizen during a cycle.

    I have my blood test tomorrow for our 6 stim cycle. During this cycle the FS finally agreed to let me include saizen - dose was 5ui from day 5-11. It would not appear to have made any difference to our egg quality at all - in fact would have said the results were worse than our previous cycles.

    I have an appt with our FS for tomorrow morning as I would like to do a back to back cycle as I did synarel for 4 months before this cycle as I also have endo and adenomysis. I don't want to have to do the long down reg again and a back to back is fine in terms of that aspect. But I would like to be prepared to push for either the saizen again and maybe start it earlier or even push to use luveris instead.

    If anyone can provide any insight into their use of luveris or saizen - when and what dose it would be very muchly appreciated.

    Sorry if my message is a bit jumbled.

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    M2O - They did the lap and Hyst etc as at that point I had been trying to conceive without succes for over 5 years. Over the years I have seen 4 different FS the lap etc was done by my previous FS who was the one that diagnosed endometriosis. Laparoscopy and laser is the only way to remove endo as far as I know. I think the theory was that whilst they were in there they would check everything out, hence the hyst and D&C and I also had dye put through my fallopian tubes to check for blockages. I think most of these things are fairly commonplace now.
    As far as I remember they didn't go through the bellybutton, I had I think 4 small incisions 2 in the stomach and 2 a bit lower down.
    Anyway, hope that helps.

    Hi to everyone else

    AFM - 8dp2dt and I dont have any pregnancy symptoms, am starting to feel like this may end up BFN, but I guess its my first cycle so hopefully if that is the case they may have a better plan for next time. I have booked another app with my FS to be on the safe side as she gets booked up and although it will prob miss next AF at least I'll be able to get on with it in Jan. If I am lucky enough to have a BFP then I'll just cancel. Gotta be practical!!

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    Linds - I'm glad you are really enjoying your new home

    Ness - Fertiles really have no idea what it is like to live in our world. They often make totally inappropriate comments thinking their advice will help because we must be doing something wrong It can get really annoying when they then say 'oh my children are so draining. In a way, you are lucky you don't have them'. Um yeah right

    LG - I'm really looking forward to a BFP for you. We are due our next one here.

    M2O - It is really worthwhile having the laproscopy (with hysteroscopy, endoscopy etc). When I had mine they removed endo, and discovered I have a higher than normal level of Natural Killer cells. It was a reassuring experience as I'd had 11 embryo's transferred before the laproscopy. Good luck.

    Chook - This month has been so draining for you. I'm hoping for a natural miracle for you after all that Bding. It takes a lot of the spontaneous romance out doesn't it?

    'Hi' to everyone here (Starf1sh, Smurf, Jaye, Spot, Patient etc).

    I'm just waiting for AF after finishing the pill. Then I have to have a 'day 2' scan to see if the lining is thin enough to start the meds

    We do so much waiting here. Have a great weekend!

    Millie

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    Milliegirl,

    Thanks so much for your advice! I feel very reassured from all your encouragement to proceed with the laparoscopy. Hope to solve any mystery if there is. Do you happen to know if you managed to get the NK cell testing paid for by your private health insurance or medicare? I have been quite confused.

    My FS' secretary has no information on it at all. And when I called the lab who does the testing, they couldnt give me any item number and cost until all testing is finished as they do not know how extensive the test is. I was dumbfounded cos how could a patient who is going to go through the testing not know the costs. It's funny how one nice lady here on the forum can tell me the cost and item no but the lab and my specialist could not. I am really stumped.

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    LG the drugs can have some pretty crappy side effects. I found my first cycle was the worst. Once I understood how it affected my body it was much easier to keep my emotions under check (mostly). It always amazes me how people who get pg without effort are ready to announce it to the world so early. You would think they would be a little more sensitive knowing what you have been through. We have recently had the opposite though where friends of ours were too worried to tell us they were pg as they knew how long we have been trying. They were so apologetic but it will be nice in a few weeks when we can share our good news. Try and stay strong and keep away from the HPT’s for at least another couple of days. Hard I know!!

    Nessika I hope this is also your lucky number 7. Here’s to 2012 bringing you your much longed for BFP!

    MrsOC I hope waiting for AF doesn’t drag on.

    Linds I hope your new home brings a change of fortune for your family.

    Chook that is so funny about your DH. Most men think it would be great to be able to BD every day…. until they actually have to!! It is good that the OPK’s seem to be accurate for you. It will help in the future to ensure monitoring done on time.

    Mom2one I agree with the other ladies about getting the lap done. It can’t hurt and is supposed to assist with fertility after. I had my lap done in the afternoon and was up and about with some good pain relief without any issues the next morning.

    Bronwyn I used Saizen one cycle and it did nothing to help with quality, but was very expensive. I am pretty sure it is a standard dose but can’t remember what that is sorry. Check if your clinic is doing a clinical trial as you may be able to get the drug for no cost if eligible. The only problem with this is you are not guaranteed to get the drug as you may end up with placebo. I have not used Luveris but have had success with low dose pregnyl which does not cost any extra per cycle. Good Luck.

    Millie I hope your day 2 scan is perfect and you can get that precious cargo on board ready for a magical Christmas BFP. I have everything crossed that this will be your miracle cycle.

    Jaye I hope your appointment went well today. Thinking of you.

    For anyone I have missed loads of good vibes and sticky baby dust to you.

    AFM – Well I relieved to say it is good news. One healthy bubba measuring right on time, heart beat 160. It was terrifying. I spent all morning ready to throw up or in tears waiting for the appointment. So I guess it is time for me to cut my apron strings and stay away ladies. I will be checking in regularly and cheering all of you ladies on. Having you all has kept me sane over the last goodness knows how long. Stay strong ladies. It took us over 12 months of IVF and 7 cycles before getting our dream. We are not out of the woods yet but I am hoping and praying that next year I will be holing a perfect little baby in my arms for Christmas as will all of you.


 

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