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    Hi chameleon and elijah's mum.

    I honestly haven't put much thought into which ones I will give and which ones I won't. My only concern about not vaccinating is that with more people choosing not to may result in clusters of non immune kids and could result in the reemergence of lower frequency bugs infecting our kids. I find it funny that people get excited about the possibility of the polio vaccine being removed from the schedule and their kids will have one less jab. The only reason that it has been eradicated is due to world wide immunization!!!! I'm sure that most (if not all!) of us have been immunized against it.

    I will have a little more of a look into it at work tomorrow and let you know what I think!

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    I def don't want this to sound inflammatory, so apologies in advance if it does.
    Just wondering where people get their information from when it comes to delayed, being selective or declining immunization?
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWandSH View Post
    I def don't want this to sound inflammatory, so apologies in advance if it does.
    Just wondering where people get their information from when it comes to delayed, being selective or declining immunization?
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    A couple of pharmacists 2 Paed iatricians and a few other reg ular doctors myself.

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    I def don't want this to sound inflammatory, so apologies in advance if it does.
    Just wondering where people get their information from when it comes to delayed, being selective or declining immunization?
    A fair question.

    I consulted my family GP, my antenatal GP, child health nurse, paediatrician, books recommended by GP and paediatrician. I was initially inclined to decline immunisation because I'd heard so many horror stories. However, when presented with the facts, I changed my mind and vaxed on time with the first lot but have ultimately chosen to delay the MMR. In truth, this is the only vaccine I have an issue with.

    My antenatal GP supports this.

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    Great thread!

    Can anyone in here who are educated on the subject recommend some reputable and (relatively) unbiased webpages regarding vaccinations? I would love to do some further reading before I start talking to health professionals!

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWandSH View Post
    I def don't want this to sound inflammatory, so apologies in advance if it does.
    Just wondering where people get their information from when it comes to delayed, being selective or declining immunization?
    Thanks.
    As mentioned I have a great GP who understands ( and agrees with some!) of my reasons for delaying, I also have a great naturopath who specialises in childhood nutrition and development who we see regularly, i also have had lengthy conversations with DS pead and my Obgyn, I also read all the Australian government websites (to get the vaccine ingredients lists, the adverse reaction sites and the current number of disease outbreaks around the country and the latest vaccine recalls)

    QUOTE=MuminMind;6188809]Great thread!

    Can anyone in here who are educated on the subject recommend some reputable and (relatively) unbiased webpages regarding vaccinations? I would love to do some further reading before I start talking to health professionals!

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    Unfortunately most websites are very one sided both ways! I do like reading Dr Sears books ( he has a website as well) plus I have a few other good books which I will dig out and list for you tomorrow!
    The biggest problem, as all the doctors I have spoken to agree, is that there can never really be a definitive study on the long term effects on the current immunisation schedule as to do this you would need a huge ( thousands) study group of newborns to study over a period of over 20 years to determine if they have any common traits linked to vaccines and not only the immediate reactions but more importantly my biggest worry the long term effects on their health

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    A few of you have mentioned issues with MMR... what exactly? I've heard about the autism link (i don't believe that) but what are the other concerns about this one???

    My research so far - starting from the standpoint that i #1 believe vaxs are important and save lives, but #2 i have a horrendously long list of allergies to contend with - has been to study the ingredients lists of all the vaxs on the current schedule, striking out any that my daughter has shown sensitivity to (she has been allergy tested). One vax that made it thru my ingredient check was the MMR, so DD has had her first shot of that (no recognisable reaction). So now i'm wondering what the going concern is with MMR and whether or not i should continue it.

    I personally don't believe Hep B is necessary and so i declined it for both my bubs, but they both had VitK as my family have a lot of bleeding issues.

    Tetanus is the single most important shot to me, so both my little ones will be kept up to date on that, but only the single shot tetanus not the combined DTP. No one in my family can have the Pertussis vax due to allergies. It nearly killed me as a bub.

    As for chicken pox, is that really all that dangerous? Can anyone tell me? I thought parents used to encourage their kids to get chicken pox to build their immunity.

    I really feel lost in all this!!!
    My mum is a real traditionalist and is encouraging me to just "trust their bodies to handle it". She mostly treated us with foods and bush remedies.
    My MIL is a health-nut and believes every internet spread conspiracy going around (you know, the "powers that be" are using vaxs to "control" the population!)
    And my hubby says with all my allergies that i have unfortunately passed on to our kids, its probably best not to vax at all.
    But with DD starting kindergarten next year i just worry what she will catch and bring home!
    This is all so hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustShiney View Post
    A few of you have mentioned issues with MMR... what exactly? I've heard about the autism link (i don't believe that) but what are the other concerns about this one???

    My research so far - starting from the standpoint that i #1 believe vaxs are important and save lives, but #2 i have a horrendously long list of allergies to contend with - has been to study the ingredients lists of all the vaxs on the current schedule, striking out any that my daughter has shown sensitivity to (she has been allergy tested). One vax that made it thru my ingredient check was the MMR, so DD has had her first shot of that (no recognisable reaction). So now i'm wondering what the going concern is with MMR and whether or not i should continue it.

    I personally don't believe Hep B is necessary and so i declined it for both my bubs, but they both had VitK as my family have a lot of bleeding issues.

    Tetanus is the single most important shot to me, so both my little ones will be kept up to date on that, but only the single shot tetanus not the combined DTP. No one in my family can have the Pertussis vax due to allergies. It nearly killed me as a bub.

    As for chicken pox, is that really all that dangerous? Can anyone tell me? I thought parents used to encourage their kids to get chicken pox to build their immunity.

    I really feel lost in all this!!!
    My mum is a real traditionalist and is encouraging me to just "trust their bodies to handle it". She mostly treated us with foods and bush remedies.
    My MIL is a health-nut and believes every internet spread conspiracy going around (you know, the "powers that be" are using vaxs to "control" the population!)
    And my hubby says with all my allergies that i have unfortunately passed on to our kids, its probably best not to vax at all.
    But with DD starting kindergarten next year i just worry what she will catch and bring home!
    This is all so hard.
    It is hard! Why is tetanus important for you? It wasn't really one I was worried about ( if DS received an open wound my GP said he could get the shot then and it can be treated- there were only 4 cases of tetanus in Australia last year)
    I am on the fence for MMR , if I do give it I will wait until he starts school, my cousins little boy had a horrid reaction ( covered in red patches for about 3 months after) , my girlfriends daughter got rubella from the shot and my SIL cousin still got the Measels 2 years after her shot! I agree that it does not. "cause" autisim but my naturopath is a very strong believer that it has something to do with the gut and vaccines may trigger something in the body? there are also theories it is genetic ( my niece has autisim her regression a month or 2 after her 18month shots was astounding) I also know all of these diseases can be fatal but luckily today it is very rare so the MMR and chickenpox vaccines to me feel more risky than getting the disease ( not to mention unknown long term effects) not that of course I want my child to get any of these diseases which is why you are damned if you do and damned if you don't!

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