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    I used to work In a really big kids store which had a large play pen area by the cafe for kids to play while their parents had coffee etc. despite many huge signs about the issue, people left their kids in there while they went to other shops in the centre all.the.time.

    Many times the parents were working elsewhere in the centre.

    Several times we had parents argue with us that because the shop was quiet we shouldn't have a problem watching their children??? Management received several complaint letters from parents complaining that they were called back in to the store to collect their own children... wtf? 9/10 times these were young kids too, toddlers mostly! Anyone could have just taken them! Some ppl r crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetseven View Post
    There is also the idea of giving children autonomy to do things themselves. I agree that 6yo is a little young, but I see nothing wrong with allowing a couple of 10yo's to walk to the local shopping centre to buy a present for another friend's birthday party.

    Similarly with a library, I've come acroppa with a child (aged 10) being disallowed. I had shown several times how to borrow a book, then she had done so all by herself with me watching to ensure she was competent. Therefore I finally deemed her ready so I waited out the front whilst she went in to borrow a book for herself - only to be chased out by the librarian.

    How are we supposed to encourage children to be members of society when they are treated as second class citizens.

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    No way is it that they are treated like 'second class' it is that it's DANGEROUS! Extreamly, even for a 10 yr old thats not safe at all.

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    Sweetseven I agree with you. But they are different situations allowing a 10 yr old to be in a library for 30 min is fine but dropping a 6yr old in a toy shop is not fine. The counter thing annoys me too.

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    I am not surprised by this When my brother and I would go grocery shopping with mum, she often let us loose in the centre and told us to meet her in 45 minutes out the front of Coles.

    We were 8 and 10 so of course we spent most of our time at the toy shop testing everything out and running around like mad things. The thing is though, so were lots of other kids whose parents were grocery shopping like our mum was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbity Babbity View Post
    Poor child

    Unfortunately people often mistake toy stores, play centres, libraries and McDonalds as baby sitting areas. It's really sad...
    Don't forget gym creches. One time when I was at the gym, my son had done a poo so they came looking for me. The girl walked straight past me and then 5 minutes later came looking again and found me. I told her that I had seen her walk past before, but because she didn't come up to me, I just assumed she was looking for someone else. She said in a joking way, "oh, we thought we had another parent who had left!" I asked if people really do that and she said it happens a lot

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    The thing is that it is an assumption that the child was dropped off at the toy shop, they could've gone there of their own accord. (I do agree 6yo is too young to allow that level of freedom, but it is always the extremes that are used to show why a practice is foolish. Also where does the line get drawn? When is it okay for a child to go shopping by themselves? 8yo? 10yo? 12yo? 14yo? 16yo?)

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    I work in a sports store and parents regularly leave there kids in the shop while they go do the weekly food shop/ have coffee with friends. Drives me insane because generally they either muck around and wreck the shop or want to try on a million shoes.

    Now I'm happy for them to come in, happy for them to even try a pair of shoes on, but I'm not a baby sitter and it's not my fault if you come back and they have wandered off (I try to keep an eye out, but of I'm busy I can't always)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetseven View Post
    There is also the idea of giving children autonomy to do things themselves. I agree that 6yo is a little young, but I see nothing wrong with allowing a couple of 10yo's to walk to the local shopping centre to buy a present for another friend's birthday party.

    Similarly with a library, I've come acroppa with a child (aged 10) being disallowed. I had shown several times how to borrow a book, then she had done so all by herself with me watching to ensure she was competent. Therefore I finally deemed her ready so I waited out the front whilst she went in to borrow a book for herself - only to be chased out by the librarian.

    How are we supposed to encourage children to be members of society when they are treated as second class citizens.

    Another instance I've been most offended about are children being ignored. For example, the family are sitting at the food court and the child is given some money to go buy a drink. The child lines up with everyone else, but when they reach the front of the queue, they are ignored and the adults behind them are served instead. Such dismissive treatment can be really harmful to the child's self esteem. They have every right to be served just like any other paying customer.
    I agree in the instance of a 10 yo walking up the street to the local shops, my 10yo has just started doing this

    My kids have their own library card, but I drive them there, wait for them sitting on a readin seat and the drive them home

    I do let my kids line up and buy things from time to time, standing back an watching them

    BUT I don't leave them in a shop to while away the time.

    The poor child I saw today was maybe 6, I'd suspect a fair bit younger. The thing is the poor child knew not where it's parents where, had no id as was left to wander with no supervision

    I am a a bit of free range parent, but this child want old enough to be out on its own. Regardless of this child's story, the toy shop is not child care centre and in no way should *Mike* have been made responsible for irresponsible guardians/parents

    I HATE when my kids are ignored when they have my permission to conduct a transaction/purchase an item. I have had words with rude adults pushing in front of them.

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    Someone was telling me recently that ppl are dropping their kids off in the Ikea ball pit for the day and going off to the pub or whatever...

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    Wow, i am shocked that this is so common
    Those poor kids


 

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