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    Oh geez.... here we go!

    Well dh and I did have both our sons done because it's what both of us believe in. We were educated, we had to sit through a session and have a talk with the dr and watch a video. We weren't worried or scared for our sons at all as we trusted the 30yrs experience our dr had performing the procedure without incident. Neither of our sons had any problems afterwards. Each to their own beliefs.
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    For the record I think it is unneccesary but i think everyone needs to remember that people have different expereinces in their lives, someone who chooses to cir my have had brothers or older sons who had medically required circs at an older age that resulted in major complications from general anaesthetic and medications and decided to circ subsequent children, it would be very unjust to judge these people. Circ is one of those things that u cant think u know whats best for everyone or judge people because the made a decision that you wouldnt. All lot of the bub hub conversations go this way, either for or against with no inbetween - just because I have done research and came to my decision does not mean that someone who chose to do the opposite didnt look at the same research to come to theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mumma29 View Post
    For the record I think it is unneccesary but i think everyone needs to remember that people have different expereinces in their lives, someone who chooses to cir my have had brothers or older sons who had medically required circs at an older age that resulted in major complications from general anaesthetic and medications and decided to circ subsequent children, it would be very unjust to judge these people. Circ is one of those things that u cant think u know whats best for everyone or judge people because the made a decision that you wouldnt. All lot of the bub hub conversations go this way, either for or against with no inbetween - just because I have done research and came to my decision does not mean that someone who chose to do the opposite didnt look at the same research to come to theirs.
    In do agree alot of the conversations do go that way.. Generally speaking I can see both sides on alot of the topics that get people fired up (bf vs ff, vax vs no vax) but I cannot understand why any parent has the right to perform a purely cosmetic unnecessary procedure on their infant son, furthermore I cannot understand why we preach gender equality and yet protect our daughters and not our sons from this procedure. Just because one of my children had an incident doesn't mean the others will, just because in a different time my partner, father, brother uncle etc needed attention doesn't mean it will apply to my son. I wouldn't preemptively remove an appendix or tonsils without cause especially in such a young child so I find it difficult to fathom why anyone would remove a healthy functioning body part just in case. Especially as if you transferred that same logic to anywhere else or even the opposite sex it doesn't make sense and you'd be seriously questioned.

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    *Shudders* I couldn't even read it all.

    I saw one done once on tv and it freaked me out. The baby cried, so did i I thought it looked cruel. Each to their own and all of that but i couldn't do it to my son..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mummykitty View Post
    In do agree alot of the conversations do go that way.. Generally speaking I can see both sides on alot of the topics that get people fired up (bf vs ff, vax vs no vax) but I cannot understand why any parent has the right to perform a purely cosmetic unnecessary procedure on their infant son, furthermore I cannot understand why we preach gender equality and yet protect our daughters and not our sons from this procedure. Just because one of my children had an incident doesn't mean the others will, just because in a different time my partner, father, brother uncle etc needed attention doesn't mean it will apply to my son. I wouldn't preemptively remove an appendix or tonsils without cause especially in such a young child so I find it difficult to fathom why anyone would remove a healthy functioning body part just in case. Especially as if you transferred that same logic to anywhere else or even the opposite sex it doesn't make sense and you'd be seriously questioned.
    That's just it, it's not purely for cosmetic purposes. It's done in certain religions and has health benefits re reducing the risk of STD's etc. I don't think anyone would get it done to their child purely for cosmetic purposes. And for the record, it is a more common practice in Australia than people might think and here in Australia the risk of something going wrong is very minimal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberleygal1 View Post
    That's just it, it's not purely for cosmetic purposes. It's done in certain religions and has health benefits re reducing the risk of STD's etc. I don't think anyone would get it done to their child purely for cosmetic purposes. And for the record, it is a more common practice in Australia than people might think and here in Australia the risk of something going wrong is very minimal.
    Apart from religious reasons and medically necessary circ's it IS purely cosmetic. The percieved health benefits are extremely subjective and don't take into account the negative health outcomes that this procedure can cause. I am guessing that you don't even know some of the less than ideal outcomes that this procedure can cause down the track. As for protecting against STI's, pffft. A condom or abstinence is far more effective, that is assuming sex is something the penis owner chooses to engage in when they are older, they may prefer the priesthood.

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    RIC needs to be made illegal.

    Just like a female can choose to have it done once she's an adult, let's make it the same for males. What makes a males right to choose any less than a females?
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    I will never buy that it reduces STD that is hogwash and dangerous how can the removal of a piece if skin reduce an std I wil never buy that one, and teling the public that is dangerous it will lead young men to believe they can use less if no protection because they are circ'd, I think we need to educate the kids on preventing STDs rather then lopping off a piece of their penis.

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    yes some people believe in male circ. & some believe in female circ……why is it ok to do to males but not females? Other cultures & religions would argue that it is part of their belief system to circ. females just as much as we can argue male circ. is part of ours…..the argument is just not a good enough reason for the rest of the world to justify.

    I hate it when you are advised to be respectful of other peoples beliefs…..I suppose we should let terrorists be..after all they believe what they are doing is ok & who are we to question to their beliefs?

    Some beliefs need to be questioned, especially when it involves innocent young bodies & urban myth about why cic. is needed.
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    circumcision is part of my dhs culture (though he is intact) for both males and females.
    I dont believe in following some religious edict that feels so wrong.
    so none of our children will be circed.
    and all will be taught about safe s3x, which is far more effective in reducing stds

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