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    Quote Originally Posted by EchoSummers View Post
    I posted this in another 'welfare cheats' thread last year. Can't be bothered re writing at this hour, but the info is still relevant:


    I couldn't not post though after seeing this thread. I am a social work student and have just handed in an essay about misconceptions regarding the welfare system and welfare recipients. So often the media will scream 'welfare cheat!' or 'dole bludgers' in an attempt to rile people up and anger the 'honest, tax paying citizens.' During my research a lot of truth came to light about the reality of the situation...

    In 1998, in the same era of the last calls for welfare reforms by the Howard government, headlines cried out about "570,000 welfare cheats" who have "cheated the taxpayers out of millions of dollars" from fraudulent overpayments. It was later revealed (though without any of the same fanfare the lie had caused) - that precisely 99.3 percent of the overpayments were due to administrative error and other reasons not even remotely related to fraud.

    In 2002, Family and Community Services Minister Amanda Vanstone made a cheap appeal to voters by announcing a 'crackdown' on 'Welfare Cheats'...Despite it being revealed again, later, that just 0.05 percent of people receiving welfare were doing so on a fraudulent basis.

    These are just a few prominent examples of deliberate misconceptions within the 'welfare debate.'

    (statistics sourced through academic reference: Peel, Mark. The lowest rung: voices of Australian poverty. Cambridge University Press, 2003.)
    Thank you

    You'll find it hard convincing some people on here.

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    Yes I know a couple. Once someone put me down as the person to contact to verify her and her partner had broken up, I said I won't lie so tell c'link not to contact me, but at the same time I wouldn't ring up and dob. The people I know are struggling to make ends meet, I do think it's wrong and they should live within their means (ie maybe can't afford a mortgage), but they don't live the high life by any means. I also know of people who have spent time in jail for claiming single parents when they were partnered. Quite sad for the kids

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    Yes, ****es me off royally. He's in his 60's, has enough super etc to not need it but does the shifty address thing.

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    Yep I know a few. I've dobbed on one once, yrs ago. Don't know if anything happened to her :S

    I know a couple of others but wouldn't dob them in. I disagree with what they're doing, but I'm not going to be the informant

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    Quote Originally Posted by trishalishous View Post
    oh oh! i know the answer to this one!
    you shouldnt be having kids if you cant afford them! you should have saved up a million dollars (obviously from working a good job, or at least 3 bad ones to earn enough) before even ttc just incase one day something happened, and you were unable to work!
    thats the right answer isnt it?
    I don't know weather I should take that comment as nasty or not?

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    I took it as being sarcastic...

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    Echo Summers, thank you That is exactly what happened to me. It is a horrible feeling to be labelled something for a crime you did not commit.

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    ty echo, and yes the true rates of deliberate fraud (of any demographic) is actually quite low. I think we all know someone, I do, but then when you look at how many people you know that receive some type of benefit or assistance, a vast majority do the right thing.

    I suppose it's the minority that ruin it for the honest ones.


 

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