Welfare dependant parents setting their children up for failure...

[feelinglucky]

I know when I went back to study I got a grant of $1200(or something) from Centrelink to help in my return to study, Anyone that wants to should look it up on the website and see if they will be eligible as I'm sure it would help greatly to pay for courses or any other expense if you want to study but can't find the money!

I just looked and I think I might of only got it for being under 18, however if the government extended it to others it would do wonders for people.

http://www.centrelink.gov.au/interne...p_eligible.htm - $208 payment that Parents can get, while not much it's a start

[bumMum]

bummum - do you know if those in the group that will be doing it first will have to still undertake the mentioned things if they are already studying year 12 at the time the government program starts?

Nobody actually knows all the ins and outs yet, but you would think studying year 12 would be above and beyond what is expected

[Azurial]

Thats nice. The course i need to do is $2500. I can't afford that, even pay as you go. My budget has no room at all for any, its enough for bills and food.

Could you look at doing something along the same lines to generate some extra income so you could pay off the other course with money from that? If those pics in the cake decorating thread were yours then why the hell arent you starting a little photography business???????!!!!!!!???? Or going to markets and selling cup cakes???? I do a monthly market where 2 women sell cupcakes for $4 each and last time they only had about 4 left at the end of the day! They are my competition so I spy on them and they are doing really well. Everyone loves a cupcake!

[Fuchsia!]

I'm actually looking into doing cupcakes as a business but again, I have no idea how to run a business so would have to do a course! Lol unless I do it off the books but I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that.

But I definitely want to do something with cupcakes, or party planning for kids parties and I also love photography but you need set up costs for photography (gear ect).

But I'm looking into it.

I really want to be a teachers aide and possibly move onto becoming a teacher. It fits perfectly because I can work school hours, good money, I can still be with the kids through the day at school and I love kids. But the local tafe does t do the course so would have to do an online course which is huge $$.

I will get there eventually. Just need money!

[TurnedBatty]

Fuchsia have you considered just studying to be a teacher straight up? Open Uni has a primary education course. Also maybe doing a disability cert IV, that can get you into being a teachers aide. I did my cert IV and could work in a disability school now. Just some thoughts, I hate seeing people unable to do what they want!

[Azurial]

A friend of mine does regular market stalls and she only claims a certain amount which is below the Tax free threshold, if she didnt do it this way there would be no point in her getting out of bed in the morning, she has a food stall.

I'm doing the bookeeping course so we can start a little business as a tax right off when dh is home, doing small landscaping jobs. I looked at business courses and they didnt fit the bill and I figured this course would give me the basics. There is also a website called Flying Solo which has some great info about for small business owners and a forum on it too for asking things..... It is doable.

As for photography..... if you have a good eye and photoshop you should be able to do enough to get some income generated. If you dont have PS pm me.

Sorry for the hijack OP

[InBetween]

i wonder what the repurcussions of this will be?

A lot of people moving out of Logan and Rockhampton? *LOL*

Government 'studies' like this amaze me as does their obvious bias towards certain communities. God forbid if they ever thought of targeting New Farm or Highgate Hill. Eew nyew, no "dole bludgers" there!

I do like this push for work in theory. But anyone that's ever been anywhere within cooee of a Job Network Provider knows how bloody hopeless and ineffectual they are. It amazes me how these organisations keep their contracts. But this is how the govt addresses unemployment - by throwing money at someone else to deal with it.

The course i need to do is $2500. I can't afford that, even pay as you go. My budget has no room at all for any, its enough for bills and food.

What course are you doing? Is it in the TAFE system or part of an RTO? In terms of courses, if you have a HCC or haven't achieved a Cert II or III then you may be eligible for productivity places and, at best, a concession. At least in Qld anyway. However, I do know that conditions in NSW for educational concessions are even better.

[ShanandBoc]

Its all well and good in theory except there are not enough jobs or childcare places. They encourage people to have babies with the baby bonus and then practically want to force them into work and have someone else care for their child. I believe one thing is far more important for a child than having both parents working. And thats having one parent at home to raise them and be there for them if possible.

[twotrunks]

I really think everyone should read the posts from the person
Who is going to be helping implement this program... She addresses issues around childcare etc. It is fine to criticize but maybe hear some truth rather than just react to media reports. (sorry on phone cannot find posters name).

[InBetween]

Its all well and good in theory except there are not enough jobs or childcare places.

I can't comment about other states but yes, there are a lot of jobs in Qld and a great family day care network. Also, from what I understand of the proposed program, you aren't forced to work per se but you are required to attend Centrelink to undertake a return to work plan or educational classes AND only if your child has reached a certain age.

So rather than just assume it's a 'work for the dole' scheme or that you'll be forced to dump your kid at daycare forever, it pays to actually read what the govt is proposing prior to commenting.