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    Congrats chook and bertie!
    I hope you are both enjoying your pregnancy journey. Even if you're feeling crap you know you've worked so hard for your pregnancy you wouldn't give it up for anything! !☺

    You prob won't need to talk about cesar or other until much later down the track bertie. (Unless u have complications or gd). My ob wasn't interested in talking about it until about 2 months before. And only then did he recommend a cesar as a much safer birth. It eliminates all the possible problems during labour, induction etc. He also said it was safer due to the ivf and multiple miscarriages and my age (41 at the time). Having said that, I'd been also attending my public hospital apts as well as my private ob apts, and the hospital were all for me having a natural birth to the end. My pregnancy was clockwork and not high risk. i know alot of private obs are quick to cut, but i was more worried about still birth, bubs heart beat stress during labour, and bleeding. Besides I'd heard of so many natural births that ended up in cesars anyway i thought we'd just take the slice n dice option. After all it took to get my baby in there, i just wanted him out safely.

    Have a wonderful journey. My beautiful boy is 10 months now and crawling up a storm. I watch him grow with wonder every day and thank my lucky stars. Xx

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    Musicalgal....thanks so much about your experiences on natural vs CS. Well, that's why I was so surprised that my FS already mentioned at 5 weeks about me not going full-term. I'd hardly even blieved that I was pregnant at that stage, than making decisions about natural vs CS. So the more input of others in a similar boat as myself, then better. Surprisingly I've not had MS really at all - last Tues + Wed I felt a bit icky, Thur, Fri + Sat quite ick, but the last three days pretty OK. It has made me think if things are going pear-shaped because the MS is getting better, but I'm trying to stop the crazy thoughts, and just wait out until my next BT on Friday!!

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    Bertie - I did a natural birth since a friend who'd had both natural and CS said that the natural was a much easier recovery, and I was hoping to avoid surgery.

    I was induced at 39 weeks because of doctors jumping up and down about my age. On the day of the birth, everything happened very quickly and I went from about 2cm to 10cm in the space of about half an hour. In the last moments they said he was in distress and his heart rate was slowing, he was helped out with forceps quickly. There was no time for an epistomy and I got a 4th degree tear. Luckily I had just had an epidural, thinking I had a long night ahead, and didn't feel any of this happening. He took a minute or two to start breathing, but was OK after that. I was whisked off for surgery immediately that I saw baby was OK, and didn't get to see him until an hour later. I was in terrible pain all at the hospital and for the first few weeks, and still couldn't sit down properly 8 weeks after. It took about 3 months to be without pain. It made it hard to enjoy baby's early days. Most early breast feeding had to be done lying down. I also had incontinence issues for a long time, still have to watch things and eat a lot of fibre.

    So if I knew all this could happen, I would have gone with the C-section.

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    Chook... I think you've definitely convinced me, so hopefully my OB says C-section, and then I will just tell my Mum that there's no conversation about it!!

    On a slightly new topic of conversation, my workplace is made up of about half strict Catholics. I've read that Catholics are totally against IVF, but am wondering if anyone has any real experiences of telling Catholic friends / colleagues about being pregnant from IVF, let alone donor sperm (or for some of you, donor eggs)? Maybe some of you are Catholic, and can weigh in with your thoughts. I'm not talking just "Catholics" but strict, church-going "Catholics", very religious, kids all go to Catholic schools, always telling stories about their parents who have quite old-fashioned views etc.

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    Bertie are there still really strict Catholics around?! I'm catholic and I didn't care what others thought, at the end of the day you do what you've got to do.
    when I was growing up I was friends with a typical big family of Catholics, and I remember they were anti ivf. But that was the 70s and 80s. The issue with Catholics is the creation of embryos which are then discarded. I use to think about it whilst I did ivf, but in the end I never had any to freeze as couldn't get most of them past blast stage. In my head I always said I would use every frosty, I couldn't bare the thought of discarding any. I attribute that to my catholic upbringing.
    In relation to Caesar v vaginal birth, my obstetrician was very relaxed about the whole thing. I was treated like any other pregnant woman. He didn't believe being over 40 or being an ivf baby made any difference to how we approached the birth. I ended up having a very good pregnancy, no issues at all. In the end I chose an elective csection because the baby hadn't turned. My doctor said he was happy to deliver a breech baby vaginally or even try turning it manually but I was worried about things like still birth and cord wrapping around the babies neck. I had the csection 2 days before I was due and it was a fantastic experience. I think wAit and see what type of pregnancy you have, things like diabetes, placenta previa, the baby not turning will determine for you whether you have a csection or not.
    the first 24 hours after the csection I was in some pain but kept up the high doses of drugs. After that I was pretty good. Though it does take 6 weeks to heal fully. I would be happy to have another csection, it's a very easy way to have a baby.

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    TeamPanda.... yes, half my staff would be Italian or Maltese, and some are definitely strict Catholic. My area is particularly full of Italians - even just going down to the local shops near my work, people say to me "Bonjiorno" and "Chau" (however you spell them!!), so I respond similarly, even though I'm not Italian, and have white English skin and light brown hair!! Well, the way you explained it, should be OK, as I never had any blasts, I used all my sister's donor eggs up, and this was an IUI so as natural as possible. I know that there is going to be a lot of "gossip" when I finally get to that stage to tell work, and that's why I sort of want to be prepared. Oh, well still a while off yet.

    AFM... I didn't get Friday's BT on Friday, and won't get the results until tomorrow (Mon) as my immune specialist never rang back (even though I left two messages on Friday and one on Saturday) and the GP on-call at my family practice (as my GP is away until Monday too!!) wouldn't tell me the results over the phone, as he said, "I don't know the rest of your history, so I can't interpret the result" so have no idea if I'm safely over the 6 week mark yet or not. What a comment!! I'm sure he could have just told me the silly number!!

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    Bertie...I guess the doc wants to have all bases covered if he/she is thinking about early delivery already. I had a natural birth and no difficulties with the birth itself, it was textbook. However I ended up in surgery afterwards as my uterus failed to contract due to a large fibroid (which we knew beforehand was a risk) which meant I almost bled out. While in surgery they discovered I also had a 4th degree internal tear that needed repair. Despite all of that I felt great afterwards, no pain etc. Whereas with a C-sect I would have been restricted for weeks afterwards. You'll just do whatever keeps bub safest and that will be your doc's main concern too.

    We had bub's early 1st birthday party on Sunday as we were visiting family in Victoria....in a few days my baby will be one! Hard to belive that this time last year I was heavily pregnant, now baby is here and can stand and take a few steps on his own. It's still surreal at times!

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    Twocam.... that year has gone so quickly. It's takes so long and so much energy to get there, and when it happens bub grows so quickly!! I'm sure you're enjoying every moment :-))

    AFM... after stressing myself to beyond nervousness, the bub was there plain to see. In fact, DH was so excited and kept babbling and babbling to the doctor, and eventually I had to tell him to be quiet for a while so the doctor could do his thing and take measurements. Quite clear to see the sac, the little fuzzy bean-shaped blob measured 15.33mm, and the heartbeat flickering away brightly. I asked the doctor what the heartbeat rate was, but he's just a temp (as my FS is away), but he said it's definitely over 100bpm as he could tell by how fast it was flickering. They're taking my EDD from 14 days before IUI, as opposed to day 1 of AF, so my adjusted EDD is now 27/8/15 and today makes 7w5d, even though on the scan bub is measuring 7w6d.


    I was expecting to cry, be emotional and had told DH he would need to hold my hand, but strangely I didn't feel like that at all - it was kind of like an out-of-body experience, rather weird. Very relieved and happy, to say the least, but I so wasn't expecting to feel sort of removed from it. I think it just still doesn't feel real :-)) Thanks everyone for thinking of me.

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    Wonderful news Bertie!

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    Fantastic Bertie! I must say I didn't feel much emotion at the 'bean' stage - still too nervous that it might fall out But at the 20 week scan I could see something that resembled a baby. At that point I think I allowed myself to believe it was true. That moment was brilliant

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