Hi and welcome to you smootch
10 days till scan…all good signs thus far…
Hi and welcome to you smootch
10 days till scan…all good signs thus far…
Smootch - welcome, fantastic you were successful the first time, hopefully it's a shorter process thus time!
Lilbirdy - have you had anymore symptoms?
Loveabug - how're you feeling? It's so hard to keep going through this nightmare isn't it hope you're ok.
Star and Jamison - how're you guys going??
Hope everyone is well!
Afm - I'm having a day 6 transfer tomorrow. Despite the embryos being a little behind, and me assuming that as per usual they would die off before today, we have a morula and and early blast today, as well as 2 x grade 3 compacting ones (cells 7 and 8). We also have 2 x 3 cells that won't go anywhere but are starting to compact, so for us that's all fantastic compared to normal. Obviously day 5 blasts would have been better but we are still happy to make it this far and have 2-4 potentials. So excited after being upset for 2 days! For us this is once our best cycle ever.
Haydos that is great news ! I wanted to reply to your post yesterday to say to keep your hopes up but I couldn't really shed any light on your questions. Who knows why those little buggers do what they do ?? I have never heard of the first phase of culture being egg related then sperm next, I'd be interested to know more on that myself. Anyway, main thing is you're having the transfer tomorrow and that is ace !! Best of luck.
Welcome smootch ....
Marzi, great post, words of wisdom there ...
Lilybaby, how are you traveling my friend ??
Hi loveabug, sorry things are tough right now, it's bloody relentless this process.
Hi star and jamison and everyone else.
Afm, had a follow up BT yesterday and HCG is pretty massive, nearly 12000 so that was a great relief and quite a surprise to be so high. I have very few symptoms, am waking up early to pee, and quite thirsty a lot of the time, plus I had to have a nana nap when I got home from work today. But I have been bleeding each day, it's old blood and not really enough to worry a panty liner, but I'd be happy if it stopped. Nurse says it's old lining making way and not to worry. So I have my 7 WK scan on the 23rd, that's been where things have fallen apart for me in the past so I'm nervous - but trying to be optimistic.
Take care all.
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Great news Lilbirdy!
Haydos, for tomorrow!
Jamison, you're a funny thing! You got it mostly right except I'm average height and a blondie
I'm feeling particularly disenchanted with infertility right now, thought I'd share a few jokes that fit my mood...How does an FS like his eggs?
Why did the FS cross the road?
Because there was an affluent, infertile woman in her 30s on the other side.
You know you are trying to get pregnant when:
You look at your sandwich and the alfalfa sprouts look like sperm . . .
or . . . Someone asks you today's date and you reply "CD 21" . . .
How many infertility patients does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Screw in a lightbulb! Hmmm . . . do you think it might help? . . .
star - you are funny. I have some great jokes too but I am not able to share them here. One I heard yesterday had me in stitches and it is about female issues but I cannot repeat it here. It is about feminine hygiene products and as most of us hate using them given our situations, I better not say. It is HILARIOUS and a little off colour though!! How you doing there? Di you ask Santa for a good prezzie this year?
haydos - I am not one to give info on embryos. I have to say, you girls use some terms I have never heard of. I find the embryologists don't like to say too much. All I know is out of 28 eggs my first cycle I had none to freeze. I had ALOT of fragmentation on that batch but after that, fragmentation was not a problem. Who knows why things change so drastically sometimes. I am sure there are reasons but I am just not aware of them. Well best of luck with that transfer. I am thinking of you and truly hoping this is going to work out for you.
I will read back further and see what is happening with all you other lovelies.
AFM.....today was strange. IVF was put back on the table. Uh-oh. I am nervous beyond belief as I do not know how I will face going back to it after such a lengthy break. I really don't want to go back there but given my history, what choice do I have? It will certainly not be until next year sometime though. I was thinking about doing another egg haul and seeing if I want to transfer OR look into other options. I am unsure about surrogacy as I have read so many different things and I have read it is not legal in some places. I tend to believe my eggs and embryos are not the problem and something goes wrong inside of me. Having said that, I still have to consider PGD. Hmmmmmmm. I just don't know what to do. I have been avoiding deciding like the plague and as the new year is upon us, I best put my serious thinking cap on. I have been having way too much fun living in ignorance and acting the clown and I am going to have to start facing it again. NOOOOOOO. Not amused I can tell you.
marzi - how you doing there??
lilybirdy - how are you feeling?
how is my other lili??
smootch - this thread has been my saviour I can tell you. It is nice to know other people understand EXACTLY how you feel and are not just saying it. I have to say I have made some great friends on BH and even via threads that had nothing to do with this long term issue. I have met some ladies who have been more supportive than my own family and I will never forget how kind they have been to me.
star - oh and I am a blondie too. It always baffles me how we create a picture of someone in our minds simply by reading what they type or hearing their voices on the phone. It just does not make sense to me. I always imagine people to be a certain way and I am completely wrong when I meet them face to face.
Haydos, all the best for your transfer tomorrow, I'll be thinking of you xx
Lilybirdy, THANKYOU so much for your jokes, I really needed that! I had tears in my eyes!!
Jamison, stressed but trying to remain calm....I'll explain below..
ATM, well, I've been having cramping since ET or just after...I've talked to a bunch of the Adelaide Bub hub girls that are preg or have had their ivf babies and they all had cramping. Some all the way thro.
(sorry for the following TMI) I went to the loo at 5:30, and had discolouration, wiped, and got red blood. I did a pee on the stick test as soon as I got home at about 6:40. That showed posative still. Have had more discolouration, really just a spot, no more blood.
So I'm trying to stay calm and will go to the clinic for a blood test in the morning....there is nothing else I can do till then
Marzi, hang in there lovely, it is nothing out of the ordinary and all is well
It was me with the black humour jokes...I just had another ROFL moment watching 'One Born Every Minute' (yes I am a bit of a sadist). The DH was doing his utmost to be supportive to his DW in obvious pain, and she turned to him and yelled, F@#% OFF!
Jamison, good luck with your decision and you WILL find the courage to move forward, I'm sure of it
to everyone else
Lilbirdy - I actually got the egg/sperm days from this forum (Starf1sh maybe) and then the embryologists said the same thing. Good luck with your scan next week!
Star - I know this cycle didn't work but now you have fantastic frosties so sounds like it won't be much longer now. Haha never thought there would be fertility jokes out there! . With the CD21 one, reminds me when I talk to family and sometimes forget to translate all the ivf talk into English.
Jamison - researching has kept me sane... ok semi-sane through this whole situation. I'm a bit of a control freak so it let's me feel like I have some control over this, which is why I know a lot of the terms that apply to me.
Why do you think it's an issue with you? I assume lots of embryos but no implanting? When would you do another cycle if you do one? All the best with the decision making! x
Thanks Marzi, transfer went well, transferred a good 4BB and a not very good 3DD, both blasts. 2 other not so good blasts that couldn't be frozen.
But FS doesn't think it was due to the PICSI somehow, which I don't get. A million cycles with very low fert rate and with embies that die off around day 4 and high DNA frag, then PICSI and we get 11 fertilised and 4 blasts (ignoring quality) and he doesn't think it's due to the PICSI???? Don't get that...
Ooh no, hope everything's ok, have you got your BT results yet??
Hmmm and just read this in the clinics newsletter:
PICSI is expected to improve pregnancy rates in several groups of patients with:
high levels of DNA damage within the sperm (identified in a specialised sperm chromatin test)
reduced sperm movement and /or poor appearance
poor fertilisation during previous ICSI treatment
poor embryo development during previous ICSI treatment
Ok, so I'm not going insane then, that is the reason for the improvement.
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