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    Sugarberry - mammogram all clear! to be honest I thought it was going to be more painful than it was. The "girls" were nowhere near as traumatized as they may have been! Ha ha

    Kismet - thx for the great advice from your acupuncturist and also about the progesterone. I had PCOS 20 years ago but have had no sign of it since. Either way, will be sure to ask for the progesterone checking and the pessaries!!

    Dees - how are you going?

    Wishinghoping - how are you feeling about your next cycle?

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    Wishmeluck – Thanks so much for the warm welcome and support. I hope the mammogram went ok and the girls came back to ‘normal’. LOL I also had low Vit D (as well as B12 and iron) – get stuck into the supplements because it took mine a while to come back to normal. I also have a Thyroid condition so PM me if you want to talk Thyroid meds.
    Kismet – I’m also on DHEA, been taking 50-75mg since Feb. No luck for me so far, but who knows if it’s just too early?
    As for me... not coping too well with the cancellations and . Feeling totally and but guess this is normal. I'm not sure what to do about the next cycle - can't give up but not sure I can face another let down.
    and to all.

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    Wishinghoping, I can completely understand why you'd be feeling sad. We all have such high hopes and I can only imagine how it feels to have those dashed. I think it's even harder for us being on our own. We don't have someone there to share that pain with us. Family and friends are wonderful, but it isn't the same is it? BUT, I think that the DHEA may not have had time to do what it needs to do for your first two cycles. Most of the research that I've found the most evidence for success after 16-17 weeks - so you're almost there!!! We are all here for you - even if you just want to write to say you're nervous etc. I know I will be when my time comes. I'm also waiting for my DHEA to do its magic. My AMH level is very low so I believe my "chances" are very very slim. But as I said before, that means it's still possible. All I know is that I will regret it if I don't give this every opportunity that I can. Keep your chin up - you just never know!! Thanks also for the info re thyroid. I will have it tested in another 6-8 weeks. Sending you lots of babydust

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    Wish - great news on the BT's, I do hope your thyroid doesnt cause any issues for you, Im sure it wont though. Great news also on the mamogram, Im glad the 'girls' survived the crush machine!
    Im really looking forward to the FET, not long to go . Feel free to live vicariously through me!! BUT, its not long till you start your wonderful journey!!

    Kismet - Im not taking anything for my PCOS. Its funny, years ago I had it quite badly, but in the last couple of years it seems to have gotten better, not as severe, Im not sure why, its a little strange . My FS told me that its now quite mild and I dont need to take anything for it, which Im wrapped about of course.
    I think you definately did the right thing by taking the extra prog' support, those extra $ were well worth it . In my last cycle (and first) I got a BFP, but miscarried early, my prog' levels were good apparently, but I did take some extra support, I was on crinone (had a sneaky extra box ). I will definately be taking some extra support, have some crinone left over from last cycle which I will use with this one.
    Thanks for the heat pack tip! If I have to do another stim cycle after this FET (which Im hoping I wont have to), I will keep that tip in mind.
    Thanks for all of your tips, your a wonderful source of information .

    Wishinghoping - Im sorry that your feeling down . This IVF rollercoaster sure can do that to us, especially when we are going through it alone. Have you thought about speaking with the counsellor at your FC? The one at mine is wonderful and really easy to talk to. We are all here for you too, big hugs .

    Dees - how are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SugarBerry View Post
    Have you thought about speaking with the counsellor at your FC? The one at mine is wonderful and really easy to talk to. We are all here for you too, big hugs .
    Thanks SugarBerry, I really appreciate the support. The counsellor at my FC is completely and utterly USELESS!!!!! All she did when I first saw her was show me some stats in a powerpoint and then give me some forms to fill in - AND attached someone else's blood test results to the back by mistake.

    Thankfully I have a great counsellor outside the FC who is really helpful.

    and to you.

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    Wishinghoping - Im sorry that the FC counsellor isnt great, you would think they would have someone more competant considering the industry they are in . Its good you have someone else to talk to about it though.
    Is there anything else that your FS has suggested that might give you some success?

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    Sugarberry - I was diagnosed with PCOS at 24. My FS specialises in PCOS issues and told me symptoms vary from person to person, it's so diverse and you never really get rid of it. I had quite a few of the symptoms including mild insulin resistance so I was put on the metformin, however he indicated he puts all his PCOS patients on metformin as a precautionary measure bcs it is suppose to help reduce the rate of m/c by upto 80% if you have pcos. I understood from what he said that even if you have mild pcos that you should be taking metformin. I took it all thru my ivf journey and was weaned off it by my 1st trimester. Now the weirdest thing is since I had my DD my periods have regulated back to what they were like when I was a teenager, approx every 42-45 days. For years my periods were all over the place, even disappeared for almost a year. Weird.
    You can also do the heat pack for a FET, do it for a couple days beforehand leading up to it as the same for an EPU. The idea is to create a nice warm receptive environment in the uterus, the heat is suppose to get the blood flowing fluidly in that area.

    Wishing - sorry to hear you are down . It is disheartening when all this becomes a struggle, you wonder why it has to be so hard. It's totally normal to have reservations about whether it will work or not and be frustrated with why it's not, and you are allowed to feel this way too, it's a process we all go thru. It is very surprising at how strong we really can be. I had to allow myself to 'grieve' every failed or cancelled cycle before I could move onto the next one, sometimes this would take a day or 2 or longer. So much emotional & physical effort goes into a cycle and we put so much hope into it. I would give myself some time to feel disappointed, upset, angry etc, then accept it didn't work this time then get ready for the next time but also accept that I could be setting myself up for failure again. Sometimes when I felt really down I had to keep focused on what I was doing and most importantly remember I'm doing the best I can. The emotional impact of all of this can be very surprising, sometimes I felt very nonchalant about it, other times a complete basket case. If it all gets too much, some people find a break from it all is a good idea, even if it's 2 or 3 months or longer. For me I found that hard to do bcs like most of us, I didn't feel I had the time to take a break, so it is a hard decision to do that. My FS was even losing hope for me & suggested donor eggs, but I refused to believe him, I said to him I just need to find the golden egg, surely there is one in there somewhere & I'm not giving up until I get it. It was put to me once by my councellor when I told her I couldn't see myself giving up even when it was looking like I had to, that only I will know when enough is enough. Funnily enough I just couldn't see that happening.
    DHEA is suppose to be more effective if you take it at least 4 months or more. I still cycled during that period just incase I got lucky. I did notice improvement in the quality of my embryos by this time, they went from being rather fragmented to only lightly fragmented. When I finally fell pregnant I had been on DHEA for 12 months and my embryos had no fragging, however I have to stress that I believe I would have been pregnant much earlier had it not been for another issue that was found which was ANA antibodies, because my embryos had definately improved in quality.

    OK I've waffled on alot. I hope your spirits lift soon.

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    Kismet - I might speak with my FS about the metformin, anything that might reduce the chance of another m/c is something Im definately interested in knowing about and being on, thanks.
    I will get my trusty heatpack out and use it for a couple of days before the FET .

    Wish - hope all is well.

    Wishinghoping - I hope your ok, Kismet offered some lovely words and advice, but I really hope your doing ok .

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    Hi everyone, Just wanted to say thank you to everyone for your support, nd extra special to Sugarberry and Kismet.

    I'm grieving, processing, dealing with everything. Lots of tears and hibernating this week. I'm starting to come round to the idea of another cycle (prob July). I know in my heart that if I don't give this everything I've got, then I will regret it in years to come. I'm thinking of going back to yoga, something I did for a long time but haven't done for a while - hoping it will bring me some "zen" space to help deal with this.

    Also wondering if a naturopath would help? Does anyone know a good one in Melbourne, or have any experience? Preferrably of the kind that doesn't cost you $500+ every time you go in.

    Thanks again. and to all.

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    Wishing - During my successful cycle I tride meditation for the first time ever in my life, something I had never thought I'd be interested in but I found it incredibly good for me, put me in a good head space. I just listened to a relaxation cd everyday when I got home from work and zoned out for about 1/2 an hour, it made such a difference & I did it after some recommendation from a fellow BHubber that believed it helped her too. It's hard not to get consumed by everything ivf, so if something can take your mind away from it even for a few minutes, it's healthy for you.
    Also this might sound airy fairy to some, it did to me in the beginning bcs I've never been into anything like this. I was teaching a bellydance class at a wellness centre just prior to my last cycle, one of the practitioners was a 'healer' and she offered to do a session on me, I thought why not, I was willing to try anything by that stage. It tought me how to meditate properly (no you don't have to do the omming) but it was also about letting go of the anger, hurt, disappointment and built up tension I was experiencing going thru all of this and many other things, it was like releasing all the negativity I had. I had to say goodbye to the losses I had (m/c's) to allow another soul to come thru. It was a pretty powerful session but I can't tell you how good I felt afterward. I was rather emotional but it needed to come out.

    What I've just mentioned might not be everyone's cup of tea, but they do say stress plays a big part in how effective ivf is, or anything else in our lives for that matter. We need to treat ourselves well.

    Anyway I have a tired little girl at my feet, must go.

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