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    Quote Originally Posted by princessrory View Post
    Also - gender of your FS shouldn't really matter! I say that as a female specialist - the women work twice as hard to get their specialist qualifications.
    @princessrory I'm really intrigued by this comment. From what I've read, gender has not been an issue is Keepontryin13's decision making. You've introduced it in your post.

    My understanding is that KeeponTryin13 is concerned about Charlotte being spread too thin between her work as a Ob/Gyn/FS and her preference for Warren's arguably greater experience. I've had a Ob/Gyn/FS who didn't prioritise IVF and offered an off-the-shelf one-size-fits-all-approach and this cost us dearly time wise, financially, and in overall burden of IVF. It may well have cost us the chance to have a child. I'd argue it's a very valid concern and one that any patient should clarify before embarking on IVF with a new FS. I suspect it wouldn't be an issue with Charlotte, but if I was considering her over Warren I'd want to know too.

    I'd also suggest your other point that females need to work twice as hard to get their qualifications is irrelevant if this isn't reflected in their skills. I had an anaethatist for one EPU who totally disregarded her colleagues' well documented reports on my atypical response to anesthetics. I ended up with excruciating issues for a fortnight, was off work and needed additional specialist input all because she was too arrogant and narcissistic to consider her colleagues' opinion, let alone listen to me! Whether this was age or gender I don't know, but as somewhat of a feminist I was really embarrassed as I suspect she disregarded her colleagues input as they were male and she wanted to prove a point. I was harmed by her. I would refuse to have her again and if I hadn't been so ill (thanks to her) and drained by IVF I'd have seriously considered putting in a complaint to AHPRA, not something I'd do lightly.

    I'm not trying to be argumentative, but would love to know why you've brought Charlotte's gender up as an issue? I couldn't help but ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubywoohoo View Post
    Hi again everyone --

    So in November we were given an appointment date of late April, but today the receptionist called and a cancellation spot has opened up tomorrow morning. It's only been 4 weeks since I first called to make the appointment - I'm pretty happy about that!

    We've read the info and completed all our paperwork... does anyone have any other tips about preparation / questions he might ask? He has all my records from my previous two cycles at another clinic.
    Congrats on getting your appointment so soon @Rubywoohoo. His questions will be thorough and both you and DP will be examined. He'll just want to understand your fertility and relevant medical history - he will seriously consider both female/male issues. I'd just make a list of your questions and key medical points/operations and your recent cycle stats etc. He'll give you a lot of verbal and written information and options. Most people seem to find it pretty full-on. (He'll probably send you home for a drink!) Remember his nurses will also be available to interpret and guide you through his plan and they'll give you typed day-by-day instructions. If you haven't dealt with QFG before, or even if you have, he'll probably take you into them and introduce you to them and he'll want more BTs. He's high energy our Wazza! We spoke to him, he took us to QFG and then we went back to see his nurse - I'd end with the receptionist and just make sure you've got what you need for the day. I'd double check you've got any handwritten scripts, BT forms and make sure you tell his girls if you are having ICSI/PICSI/PGD/intralipids/laps/flush and scratches etc - even they cannot always read his writing. If there are any queries that come up, they are great at checking that with him on the spot. I imagine your first cycle will be in the new year, so you should get to see him again at the start of your cycle before you start your stimming, so you can always ask him more questions then too - unless you are starting with Charlotte before he gets back from leave? She is great too. If you are on a budget you might want to shop around for any non-PBS scripts, although the pharmacy downstairs is convenient. If you have private health you might also want to get pharmacy receipts for any compounded scripts, as some funds will give you a little bit back. If he suggests Inofolic (if you have PCOS) get it from downstairs (it's hard to find) and check the dose of Megafol with Wazza's team or get it downstairs too as they know what dosage Wazza's girls get. We got 5mg from them, whereas our local chemist tried to sell us 0.5 - so quite a difference! If you are picking up your stim drugs, of course you know they need to be refrigerated ASAP. Good luck - you are in great hands!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keepontryin13 View Post
    I guess I'm still concerned as its such a busy practice I'm after someone that will actually sit down and take the time with us. Seems most FS are pretty rushed these days. I'm really still in two minds with Dr Mooring. We are looking at another doctor so still to make a decision in the New Year.
    Warren is so amazing and so is Charlotte. They will talk all the time you need. At the end of an appointment Warren even asks 'now is there anything else you can think of that you want to ask me?' and he genuinely means it.

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    Thanks for your response @princessrory. @Gagingi I did make the comment in an earlier post about Charlottes gender - see below - and thanks for your advice/response.

    We haven't tried a female FS yet so you never know!!!

    This comment was in regards to luck! It was not a dig at someones gender. I'm not sure if you have done as many cycles as we have or tried as many doctors as we have but I think my concerns as pretty valid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keepontryin13 View Post
    Thanks for your response @princessrory. @Gagingi I did make the comment in an earlier post about Charlottes gender - see below - and thanks for your advice/response.

    We haven't tried a female FS yet so you never know!!!

    This comment was in regards to luck! It was not a dig at someones gender. I'm not sure if you have done as many cycles as we have or tried as many doctors as we have but I think my concerns as pretty valid.

    @keepontrying13 thanks for clearing that up.

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    Many thanks @Gagingi for the helpful tips! The initial appointment went very well -- what a whirlwind! He was very, very thorough, and the whole team were both lovely and also (so important!) incredibly organised.

    Blood tests completed, DH is off conscientiously shopping for his supplements and buying boxers right now :-D. I think he's happy to have things to do & contribute. A lot of the process so far has been focused on me - injections, scans, tests, procedures blah blah blah...

    We're starting next cycle, and Charlotte will be overseeing the protocol that Warren drew up for us today. It's a yes to the scratch, ICSI possibly PICSI, and intralipids if it turns out I have NK cells. I feel like they really know what they're doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by princessrory View Post
    I think @Keepontryin13 explained it best in her response to you.

    And yes, I think you're being argumentative here.

    I'm sorry you had a terrible experience with a female anaesthetist. I wasn't super-impressed with my last anaesthetist, but out of the five GAs I've had this year, the two anaesthetists I didn't like were old (one male, one female), so I happen to think it's an age thing. I don't think that your experience is relevant the experiences of female specialists as listed in the recent College of Surgeons Expert Advisory Group and the ensuing discussion in the media of other specialist groups. I also say that having had discussions with a number of junior doctors who are training as OB/GYNs and have been treated really poorly because of gender.

    I'm not really interested in getting into this with you in this forum, suffice to say the original poster brought up gender, I offered my opinion as to why I thought Charlotte was excellent, despite her being a practising OB (since Wazza does do some GYN) and a woman (with a young family).

    I think you owe me an apology.

    I'm simply trying to provide an insider's view of the situation. Take it or leave it. You can argue all you want with me, but I'd suggest that the information I get as a professional colleague of Wazza's, probably is a little more reliable than the information given to patients (even the most motivated ones). It's the same in any industry.

    Also, for the record, and for the casual reader: I'd be very careful taking advice and self-medicating with hormonal medications based on the advice of someone you've never met on BubHub. If you want to try something, discuss it with your doctor so at least the risks and benefits (which can be dose-dependent) are explained to you and you make a properly informed decision.

    If only the women on this forum channelled their energies into forcing IVF research from these big consortiums, I suspect that we'd all be having babies with our OE well into our late 40s by now.

    This board has been illuminating as to the mindset of patients, and I have to say that my IVF journey has definitely made me a better doctor. So that's a silver lining (albeit an expensive one).
    Exactly whom/what advice are you referring to regarding "self-medicating with hormonal medications"??

    Seeing as you're so gung-ho about the lack of research & being an "insider" & "collegue" of Warrens as well as being a "Specialist" of some unknown description....or so you claim, then why don't YOU with your "insider" contacts start channelling your energies into lobbying for more research??

    Better yet...start up some kind of a supporters group that informs women how to do this seeing as you seem to enjoy telling everyone else what they should/shouldn't do & dishing out the advice!! Having babies with your OE's into your late 40's with IVF is totally unrealistic & virtually impossible even when conceiving naturally!!

    Would've thought someone like you would know more about basic biology/fertlility!!!
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    @Charlie74 - I agree, I think everyone learns a lot from other ladies experiences on this forum, especially the things that are not "pure" medicine. It's not the patients that need to be advocating for better research, the medical specialists in this field should be doing it. I have no medical background but am married to a health professional and have some insight into the medical world and how it works. I wish some of what we pay for IVF could be funnelled into research to improve probablilty of success and in some way make this hideous minefield of an IVF process better for those who need it.

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    Yes, speaking of how awesome Wazza is, a few of his ex patients are putting together a tribute to him given he is winding down from the practical (hands on) side of the business and handing over to the very capable Charlotte. We want a few personal stories of patients who have experience of Wazza going 'above and beyond' the standard expectations of a fertility specialist i.e; one of my friends experienced OHSS during a stim cycle with Wazza and he visited her day and night even on the weekends and wrote to her when she returned home to check on her (that cycle brought her a beautiful daughter). Please feel free to PM me here with your story, and I will keep everything confidential and we can discuss how the information would be used. Looking forward to seeing his face when he has his 'this is your life' moment

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    Well said @Charlie74!


 

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