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    Quote Originally Posted by Gen72 View Post
    Hi ladies...been pretty hectic. We made a spare of the moment decision to go to Melbourne a couple of weeks ago and then we had my brothers wedding weekend before last.

    Well our DE FET for 3 Nov was cancelled . As Warren suspected the embryo didn't continue to grow to day 5. Although it was sad we really were prepare for the worst.

    So we've jumped straight into a long down reg for our last attempt with OE. I had a Hysteroscopy, scratch & lipoidol flush last week. We just going to throw everything at it and give it the very best shot we can. I've been taking DHEA as well as all Warren's supplements and magic potions for a few months now so fingers crossed that something makes a difference.

    If all goes well and we get something to transfer, we will even have our results just before Christmas. Pretty nervous actually..... which is strange after being through it that many times. I guess it is just the realisation that this will be it for us as far as our OE and our only other option is DE, probably OS.

    One thing I did want to ask you fountains of info...has anyone used Scitropin and did you have any success using it?

    MamaKes - how did you go with your IUI? I think you were having it just before I was due to have FET...been thinking of you, fingers crossed. You definitely have some different emotions with so much riding on it when you know it is going to be your last throw of the dice.
    Hi Gen72 the IUI was a bust. Not even a hint of a beginning of something. Just a little directionless at the moment as There's so many decisions around going towards Overseas DE and that was what I believed to be my last own eggs cycle. Why don't I want to give up on my own eggs?

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    Hey MusicalGal - Thanks for that! Age related egg issues are also our problem. Warren didn't give us much hope and really feels our best way to have a baby is to go the O/S DE option. We figured that we have to do at least one cycle with Warren after finally getting to see him. So we had our day 6 visit with yesterday and we've decided to through everything at this cycle and we're also using the scitropin...gives me a little bit of hope to hear that you had success with it. Warren discovered from the Hysteroscopy that I've had an mild infection recently and my right tube was blocked...however I had a Hysteroscopy & Laparoscopy in May with another Dr and my tubes were both fine and had a tiny bit of Endo that he got rid of. So who knows when I got this infection and blocked tubes and if that had any effect on my 2 cycles since then. We also found out that I was positive for the NK cells (8 & 56 I think that is what they are) so we are also doing intralipids which I start on Wednesday. Also makes you wonder if any of the other Dr's had bothered to offer any other treatment things may have been different for us. Seems you have the perfect outcome...fingers crossed we are as lucky....we can only dream about sitting here a month from now with the same news we'd be delighted with twins...would be a fantastic early Christmas present.

    Heyside - sorry you're having to go back again, sometimes it’s worse to get the positive only to have it gone again. My first Dr was only ever happy to put back one embryo, even at my age. My second Dr was happy to put back 3 embryos, however neither of them were willing to try a different protocol or investigate any further and usually did a transfer prior to day 5. If I'm lucky to have some day 5 embryos I'd be happy to put them ALL back... well maybe not all, but at least 2 and maybe 3.

    MamaKes - I'm so sorry it was no good for you. I know it is so hard to make the decision to stop trying with your own eggs. We were like that also, then my sister who had offered to be our donor and was getting older pretty much gave us a window of Sept & Oct so that pushed us... and then turned out that her eggs were worse than mine. Our turning point came when we finally got our apt with Warren and he gave us some cold hard truths. That's when we decided that this is it, we've done all we can do and if doesn't work we'll regroup and decided in the new year if we'll continue our baby journey and go O/S or just accept life without children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gen72 View Post
    Hey MusicalGal - Thanks for that! Age related egg issues are also our problem. Warren didn't give us much hope and really feels our best way to have a baby is to go the O/S DE option. We figured that we have to do at least one cycle with Warren after finally getting to see him. So we had our day 6 visit with yesterday and we've decided to through everything at this cycle and we're also using the scitropin...gives me a little bit of hope to hear that you had success with it. Warren discovered from the Hysteroscopy that I've had an mild infection recently and my right tube was blocked...however I had a Hysteroscopy & Laparoscopy in May with another Dr and my tubes were both fine and had a tiny bit of Endo that he got rid of. So who knows when I got this infection and blocked tubes and if that had any effect on my 2 cycles since then. We also found out that I was positive for the NK cells (8 & 56 I think that is what they are) so we are also doing intralipids which I start on Wednesday. Also makes you wonder if any of the other Dr's had bothered to offer any other treatment things may have been different for us. Seems you have the perfect outcome...fingers crossed we are as lucky....we can only dream about sitting here a month from now with the same news we'd be delighted with twins...would be a fantastic early Christmas present.

    Heyside - sorry you're having to go back again, sometimes it’s worse to get the positive only to have it gone again. My first Dr was only ever happy to put back one embryo, even at my age. My second Dr was happy to put back 3 embryos, however neither of them were willing to try a different protocol or investigate any further and usually did a transfer prior to day 5. If I'm lucky to have some day 5 embryos I'd be happy to put them ALL back... well maybe not all, but at least 2 and maybe 3.

    MamaKes - I'm so sorry it was no good for you. I know it is so hard to make the decision to stop trying with your own eggs. We were like that also, then my sister who had offered to be our donor and was getting older pretty much gave us a window of Sept & Oct so that pushed us... and then turned out that her eggs were worse than mine. Our turning point came when we finally got our apt with Warren and he gave us some cold hard truths. That's when we decided that this is it, we've done all we can do and if doesn't work we'll regroup and decided in the new year if we'll continue our baby journey and go O/S or just accept life with children.
    Gen72 I'm also with Warren and as you've seen with me on the DE South Africa thread also looking at O/S DE. We got the cold hard truths from Warren too. Are you doing the long reg cycle that's agonist/antagonist with estrogen priming? I haven't done it yet but Warren recommended it as a last go for own eggs. My DH doesn't want us to try again with own eggs as he feels it's a lost cause. I don't want to regret it. Is that why you're also doing 'one last go'?

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    @MamaKes - Sorry to hear the IUI was a bust hun its so frustrating isn't it.
    @Gen72 - Good luck with this new cycle hun hope the scitropin helps. Hoping that it helps that warren found something at your hysteroscopy and that can be dealt with. I feel the same about twins would somehow make this long wait worthwhile and complete our family.

    AFM - Still waiting around for af after the chemical with no signs, going for a bt on Friday to see what's going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyside View Post
    @MamaKes - Sorry to hear the IUI was a bust hun its so frustrating isn't it.
    @Gen72 - Good luck with this new cycle hun hope the scitropin helps. Hoping that it helps that warren found something at your hysteroscopy and that can be dealt with. I feel the same about twins would somehow make this long wait worthwhile and complete our family.

    AFM - Still waiting around for af after the chemical with no signs, going for a bt on Friday to see what's going on.
    Good luck for your blood test and Thanks @Heyside. That's ok. I'm ok with it now, wasn't earlier. I'm on day 2 of new cycle and have promised DH to do nothing this cycle, no IVF, no IUI, no clomid, nothing. Feels weird. I'm scared the golden egg will drop the one time I'm not trying. But it will be a relief to be off the hormone and feel myself again.

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    What's scitropin? Gen72 is that something new Warren is trying??

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    Hi there Wazza appreciators!

    I'm new. My appointment with Wazza is next April, but I am also on the cancellation list. I'm 40, DH is 38 - have been trying for our first for a couple of years now with no results at all. We've had two cycles with another clinic, and although I was a 'great responder' in some senses for my age (17 eggs first time, 13 eggs second time, fertilisation a-ok), we got no blastocysts. Existing FS started pushing the ED route quite hard at our WTF appointment. DH is dead set against ED, so it's time for a second opinion - any why not go for the best, right??

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    MamaKes scitropin is growth hormone... its like everything else some say it has some benefit, some say no. I don't think it is new, but Warren says it is totally up t you if you want to use it.

    Hey Rubywoohoo....I also didn't have an appt until March 2016, but got a call within a week for an earlier apt.... fingers crossed you will too. Warren will certainly give it to you straight and if he feels your best option is DE then he will tell you. And it certainly takes a bit to get your head around the fact that if you want to have a baby you have to use DE. But it is a process you have to go through and you'll make the right decision for you in your own time....good luck!

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