**Calling all Adelaide ART/IVF ladies - Thread 14**

[liv01]

thanks lilly baby i have been thinking about it all night talk about stressing myself out i have everything crossed that all is ok i have another scan tomorrow with dr lane to make sure i am out to ovulate as he was surprised it looks like i do it super early and you have to have the MRI done on day 21 I googled it last night.

I was sort of hoping that i could relax about it all this time maybe not it feels like it is going to be an emotional roller coaster again

[Livvyloo]

Pats – I’m so sorry to hear about your situation, that’s awful, and I know just how you feel. In my first FET cycle I had something similar happened. I actually started spotting before I found out I was pregnant though and assumed it was all over. The clinic did the BT because it’s protocol and I came back with HCG at 500 for 15dpo which is excellent, however my progesterone was super low. They told me to up my crinone (spoke to two diff nurses, one said to increase and one didn’t seem interested or concerned at all and suggested that I could just stay on the same dose…random!) and they’d do a repeat BT on the Monday following my Friday BT. That weekend was one of the worst I’ve ever had. I was desperately hoping that everything would be okay; it was my first ever pregnancy and I just wanted it to stick. I didn’t spot that much over the weekend but I did have some and I was cramping quite a lot at times. I did HPT’s over the course of the weekend to see if they got stronger or lighter and unfortunately for me they got lighter, I knew on Monday my BT would yield bad results, and they did, HCG had gone from 500 to 49 over the weekend. It was absolutely heartbreaking. I truly truly hope this isn’t the same for you, and I have faith that now you’ve got it in hand with your alternate doctor that the results may be different. Keeping EVERYTHING crossed for you hun, I don’t want anyone else to have to go through it!! Oh and just for a little bit of hope, my mother in law had a threatened miscarriage with my husband… similar situation, but he’s alive and well and all was fine in the end. Big big hugs and so much baby dust to you.

Will do other personals in a min, just wanted to get this posted for Patsgirl!

[Livvyloo]

lily - thanks for your best wishes and thoughts on the grade of my embies and my chances for success. For some reason ive just been feeling really down that they werent grade 1. My first ever transferred embie was a grade 1, the best of the best, and even THAT didn't work though so who knows what it's going to take??! Glad to hear that it was KT that said that about the grading actually, I have multitudes of faith in him since he's the only FS thats ever done a BFP transfer for me - evne if it was an m/c in the end, that had nothing to do with him!! GL with your jabbing, hoping that the extra meds etc make all the difference and this is the cycle for you

Andi - how frustrating that your FET is taking a little longer than expected, sometimes that does happen though when your body is lagging a bit behind. It's so frustrating though when you just want things to HAPPEN. I'm sure they've got it in hand though and you'll be having your FET in no time!!!

liv01 - hoping that it doesn't have to be stressful for you this time around Not sure of your story entirely but fingers crossed that it's an easier road.

AFM - 2 days post transfer and already feeling BLUE blue blue. I always just feel so hopeless and like it's just IMPOSSIBLE for this to work. I can't shake it. I want it so badly but after 3 ultimately BFN cycles in total... one stim and two fet's... it feels like if it was going to work it would have worked already can't shake that feeling that it's never going to be my turn

[leeese]

Thanks Livvy, Winzy, lilybaby, pats and Andi for all your kind words, I certainly know you all understand

LIVVY: I know about it all feeling impossible. I didn't think I could be positive about it all again. But today is a new day and I have finally stopped crying and looking toward my next cycle. I felt like you do now, during my last 2ww and I over analysed everything. I think next time I'm going to do more relaxation CD's. I have also been reading others journey's in different threads. There are so many ladies who have felt it would never happen, had terrible cycles and then a BFP. It helped me feel better.

PATS: How fabulous a BFP. I am thinking of you and what you are going through right now. Well done for acting quickly with a second opinion and for tomorrow's BT. As I am new here I'm not sure if I am allowed to ask what clinic you are with (or were with when you started this cycle). Also your acupuncturist sounds like she is on the ball - who do you see? I have never had acupuncture but maybe it's time to start.

WINZY: Focusing on my next cycle has helped me feel positive again. My last 5 cycles were antagonist and I had a lot of immature eggs last 2 cycles (last one had 7 eggs and five immature so only one fertilised) . So FS suggested long down reg this time. I start Lucrin 16th May. I am going to ask to be tested for anti nuclear antibodies (BT) as I have had Sarcoidosis (10yrs ago) an auto immune problem. I am also going to ask about assisted hatching and whether I should start DHEA (for subsequent cycles if next is unsuccessful). I am also going to start COq10 100mg, royal jelly 2g until EPU, vit C, D, E 1000mg and spirulina (DP will take vits as well). I also have an appt at another clinic on Friday 6th May for, as you put it, a fresh set of eyes. Pheeeww! Does this all sound reasonable, can anyone think of anything else?

TMAN: Hi I have been lurking here for quite some time getting inspiration from so many stories. Like you I have only recently started posting and have found it really helpful and supportive. Good luck with your appointment.

Andi: Hope you have recovered from your blood test, that sounded horrific.

Lily: You are right, most things in life tend to get easier the more often you do them. Seems the opposite applies to IVF . Keep positive, I had my first positive HPT, and low positive BT (first time made it to BT) after lipiodol flushing. What day of you cycle did have the flush and was it at the start of your stim cycle, or start of off cycle? I see you have changed FS, can I ask from where to where? Curious as thinking of changing myself. Are you happy that you changed?

Sorry for the long post with questions but am ready to throw every thing into it again!

[jayemkayare]

Leese – Really really sorry to hear that AF came With all those changes you are making, I hope that it works to get you your well deserved and overdue BFP. Maybe it is time for a second opinion, someone with new ideas, there are lots of stories of BFP coming after somebody has seen a different FS who does things differently. It is understandable you are so upset there is nothing wrong with crying, cry as much as you need too and remember we are here for you. It is good to hear you sounding better today though.

Livvy – I hope you are able to start feeling more positive soon. It is hard I know, but this is only your second fresh transfer and with 2 great embies inside you have a great chance.

I do hope that the 5 months of nurturing my eggies that I will have some wonderful eggies, thankyou.

Tman – Welcome I hope that you are able to get some answers at your next FS appointment. I have found out so many useful things from this site that I will be taking back to my FS if this cycle doesn’t work it does though. I also have low AMH like your wife does, it is devastating to hear that news.

Lillybaby – good luck with the jabbing tonight I am a great believer in the saizon I will definitely be trying that (but hopefully not) with my next cycle. I don’t know too much about the lipoidal flush but I damn well hope it works

Patsgirl – Congrats babe I hope and pray with everything I have that your bloods improve tomorrow. Repromed certainly sound incompetent, you have me rather worried. Your own FS sounds wonderful though. Sounds like you and bubs are in great hands. Again I hope things improve for you

Andi – Hopefully your bloods also improve and you are able to have your FET. I had only two blood tests when I had my FET, so I think 4 is a bit more than normal, I don’t think it is anything to worry about (except that they butcher your veins) because if those hormones are at the right level then it doesn’t matter how many bloods it took. I think I would be delaying the MRI if you are PUPO, but to make sure the MRI people would definatley be able to help you.

[Livvyloo]

jaye - you always manage to make me feel a bit more hopeful, there's something about the way you talk about my situation that makes me think that perhaps it's not as far along as it feels to me and like 2 stim cycles really isn't that much in the grand scheme of things. So thank you for that, because it puts my mind at ease a bit. 4th round of treatment SEEMS like a lot, but yeah.. 2 FET's in there, and ONE of them was a BFP.. maybe I shouldn't feel sooo hopeless.

Leeese - glad you're feeling a bit more positive and spending your time focusing on your next cycle, i have found in the past that that's what's helped me move on and get through it.. having another cycle to look forward to, another chance at a BFP!

[second baby not so easy]

Pats - fingers x its a sticky one, goodluck. Sending u babydust.

Afm - im 6 wks and 3 days. But have been having really bad back aches and cramps so still doing the toilet check all time. Not really any bad m/s but i get such a sore back if im standing up alot and in a lot of pain. Fn said this can b normal??? But compared to ds i was not in this pain???? I would seriously not care if this means the little one is growing stronger every day but im petrified thar were going to lose it :'( just 2 more weeks to scan. We still havnt told amyone as i dont want to have to deal with them if we m/c. Sorry bout me post

[jayemkayare]

Livvy - I'm glad that I am of some reasurrance to you, I know it is only small but I'm glad that I can help that little bit

Second - The worrying doesn't stop at the BFP does it? Have they run any further BTs to check on things? I have read that IVF pregnancies do have more cramping than natually concieve pregnancies, Was DS a natural miracle? I bet it is a long 2 week of waiting for that first scan

[digbyleigh]

2nd......the 3ww until the 7 week scan is full of so many emotions. I worried alot also, especially as it felt sooooo different to pregnancy with DD. Repromed would only do 2 BT, one to check hcg levels, then another to make sure levels were rising nicely. I ended up getting myself so worked up with worry a week & a bit later I went & had another BT with my GP for reasurrence & to help me get through the last of the 3ww. Maybe you could also ask your GP for another BT for reasurrence your levels are rising nicely. The cramping is meant to be very common also, I had some & was worried that I didn't have any m/s. The nausea didn't start until around week 7.5 for me so it's probably too early. I hope the next couple of weeks go quick for you mate & before you know it your staring at the screen seeing bubs with a perfect heartbeat xxxx

[patsgirl]

Thanks so much for your replies; it's nice to know that people care

I have been much calmer today, which I'm glad about because it will be better for bubs if I'm not too worked up; the waitings not easy though.

Leese: I won't name the clinic specifically, but they are the biggest, most prominent one in Adelaide. I have accupuncture with Lea Papworth (just Google her). She is absolutely wonderful

Will let you all know how I go tomorrow.