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    Hello all
    I've just been reading the conversation, and its made me quite interested in looking into one of these surgeries.

    I currently weigh just under 130kg.
    I was 109kg prior to falling pregnant, and was just over 130kg when he was born, and I lost about 7kg, but it feels like I am just stacking on the weight

    Is there any kind of age or weight requirements you need to meet for either surgery?

    I've tried many a diet and exercise, and nothing seems to work.
    I dont want to try Duramine, because I've read too many bad things about it.

    I have a BIG problem with emotional binge eating, and even though I try my hardest to eat well, if I had one bad day, everything is down the drain.

    Obviously getting the sleeve would be the permanent option, but I am unsure as to which procedure would seem like the better option for me. I am looking to lose 40+kg and keep it off.

    Once you get the sleeve, do you always have to plan your meals, so that you meet the required amount of protein and such?


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    Hi miskls
    The requirements for op's are the same. Over 18 yr of age. And a bmi of over 35 or 30 with comorbidities (diabetes,high blood pressure etc).

    To answer question about the sleeve re meal planning. No you don't. I eat whatever I like. I am just mindful to eat protein and to eat it first. Protein helps you lose weight so it important to eat it.

    Before you decide on anything do some research. here some good sites

    http://www.gastricsleevesupport.com/

    http://www.sunnybankobesitycentre.com/

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    Thank you for those links.

    At the moment, my BMI is 40-41

    But thank you again

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    imischa - I think it's just having a new baby and eating too much late at night because I'm awake and I'm bored and my kitchen and loungeroom and bedroom are all one room now! And not sticking to my shopping list at the supermarket and buying too much icecream.

    misskls - It is a big decision to make but both could be good options for you. Some advice RE: the band is that if emotional eating is a problem for you, it can be difficult to cope with situations when ordinarily you would binge. I started cooking like a maniac instead because I didn't know how else to deal and I COULDN'T eat. So I filled my freezer, and my parent's freezer, and was sending food to work with DH for him to share.. you get the idea. A lot of surgeons have a program which includes consultations with a psychologist and that can help, but mine only offered 2 and I swear I need years of therapy to deal with my food issues, so it certainly might be worth consulting one first
    All the best xx

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    Hi Ladies,

    My DH just mentioned over the weekend that he was thinking about having lap band surgery, he has struggled with his weight since he was about 8 years old but he is now starting to worry about his weight, how he looks and the risks to his health.

    his BMI is 45 (he won't tell me his weight) he is 181cm tall and 32 years old.
    he never goes to the doctor so I don't know if he has Diabeties or high colesterol etc.

    We were wondering if anyone knows how much this procedure will cost and if he will be eligible

    Also we'd never heard of the sleeve before and would love some more info on the pro's and cons of this surgery. The sleeve sounds better suited as he is addicted to food .

    He lost 30 odd kilo's by calorie counting but within a year had gained that back and prob 10-15 kilo's more he can loose the weight just can't maintain it.

    Would really appreciate some info
    off to search internet for some more info but real life experiece would be great too

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    Feel free to ask us anything.
    The criteria for WLS (band /sleeve etc) is a bmi of 35 or 30 with co morbidity's eg diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol etc

    I know too much about the band but I am sure Mrs molly or one of the others will answer any question you have.
    This what i do know

    The Band
    a band is placed around the top of your stomach forming a pouch. You can only eat what fits in that pouch with the exception of liquids.
    The band needs adjustments so the amount that can go through can be changed. I not sure how often it tends to be adjusted.
    The band is removable.
    You can have some problems eat bread and red meat (steak i think)
    The band can slip or erode (I don't how common or rare this is)
    It is not permanent.

    The sleeve
    This what I have so I know more about it
    It is permanent and can never be reversed
    The surgeon cuts away 3/4 of your stomach and the gland that causes hunger. This leave you with a snag shaped pouch that can hold 3/4 of a cup of food or drink.
    You can eat and drink at the same time for a few months.
    you can't even eat one bite more.
    You can eat anything are the sleeve.
    The main complication with the sleeve is a leak but that is rare but it can happen.


    As to the cost. I can only talk about the sleeve. It really depends where you live and what surgeon you use. In some state you can get it (both the band and the sleeve) through the public system but a very long wait (years). Privately it really does depend I have heard some surgeon will do it for just under 2 thousand plus the aneasthetist. I personally paid $6600. that total the surgeon, his assistant, the aneasthetist and all the pre op appointments (exegesis dude, dietitian and psych). It was the best money I have ever spent.

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    Thanks Loving 5 ... great info

    I will keep looking maybe DH could ask his GP at his next appoinment and I will look into our PH insurance too

    Thanks again.

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    I had lap band surgery in 2009 and I was $2,000 out of pocket with HBF taking care of most of the cost.

    The surgery took around 30 mins, it is key hole surgery and I was in hospital overnight. I was quite uncomfortable due to the gas that they use to expand your stomach so that they can do the surgery but that fades over a couple of days a over the counter de-gaz tablets help.

    For 2 weeks before the surgery I had to go on opt-fast (1,000 calories a day) so that my liver would shrink making key hole surgery easier. My Dr said that most patients over 40 BMI are asked to do the opti-fast.

    I had 1.5mls of fluid placed in the band at the time of the operation. So that your body can heal from the surgery you spend a couple of weeks just drinking liquids (any liquid goes except soft drink). After the two weeks or so you progress to mushy foods eg mashed potato, scrambled eggs, soups. You then gradually progress to solid food.

    The port around the lap band can be filled with liquid to restrict how much, and the type of food, that can travel from the small pouch to your stomach.

    I have not had many fills due to pregnancy (that ended in a miscarriage) and because for the first year weight fell off me without any effort. However, that weight loss stalled late last year, in fact I had put on a few kilos, and since Christmas I have had two fills. I now have 3.8mls of saline in what I think is a band capable of 10 mls (it is rare that patients will have more than 8 mls).

    I struggle with eating meat, particularly steak and don't even bother trying that now. Bread can also be a problem as can other food types. If you eat food that no longer fits through the band or you take big bites or eat too fast the food will get stuck in the band. This is not pleasant, it hurts and generally results in the food coming back up which is known in lap band world as a PB (productive burp). You are not meant to drink 20 mins before and 20 mins after a meal (I am bad with this one).

    Unfortunately you can eat around the band as junk food generally slips through the band easily.

    I am an emotional eater and so the band doesn't stop me eating all junk food but what it does do is that it prevents me eating as much food as I would have pre-band. My weight loss hasn't been amazing, 30kg, but for almost a year I maintained which was a first for me. I was 150kg when I had the band done and if I hadn't of had it I know that I would be heavier now as I was never able to maintain weight, I got heavier every year.

    I am getting another fill done this/next week as I can eat more then I want to be able to eat. As for problems with the band it can leak (I am going to ask my Dr if he thinks this is possible with me as I can eat a lot more then I could a couple of weeks ago), it can erode (less likely with new bands being used) and it can slip. You can also gain weight with the band if you do not try and alter how you eat in anyway. I have known people who have lost 70kg in a year and others who have taken 5 years to lose 50kg. The key point though in my mind is that they lost this weight - no matter how long it took, the weight is gone.

    The first year for me was so easy that I thought all the weight would simply melt off, but time has shown that effort does have to go into it as does exercise. It is not an easy fix but it helps in many ways and I have never regretted getting it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louellyn View Post
    I had lap band surgery in 2009 and I was $2,000 out of pocket with HBF taking care of most of the cost.

    The surgery took around 30 mins, it is key hole surgery and I was in hospital overnight. I was quite uncomfortable due to the gas that they use to expand your stomach so that they can do the surgery but that fades over a couple of days a over the counter de-gaz tablets help.

    For 2 weeks before the surgery I had to go on opt-fast (1,000 calories a day) so that my liver would shrink making key hole surgery easier. My Dr said that most patients over 40 BMI are asked to do the opti-fast.

    I had 1.5mls of fluid placed in the band at the time of the operation. So that your body can heal from the surgery you spend a couple of weeks just drinking liquids (any liquid goes except soft drink). After the two weeks or so you progress to mushy foods eg mashed potato, scrambled eggs, soups. You then gradually progress to solid food.

    The port around the lap band can be filled with liquid to restrict how much, and the type of food, that can travel from the small pouch to your stomach.

    I have not had many fills due to pregnancy (that ended in a miscarriage) and because for the first year weight fell off me without any effort. However, that weight loss stalled late last year, in fact I had put on a few kilos, and since Christmas I have had two fills. I now have 3.8mls of saline in what I think is a band capable of 10 mls (it is rare that patients will have more than 8 mls).

    I struggle with eating meat, particularly steak and don't even bother trying that now. Bread can also be a problem as can other food types. If you eat food that no longer fits through the band or you take big bites or eat too fast the food will get stuck in the band. This is not pleasant, it hurts and generally results in the food coming back up which is known in lap band world as a PB (productive burp). You are not meant to drink 20 mins before and 20 mins after a meal (I am bad with this one).

    Unfortunately you can eat around the band as junk food generally slips through the band easily.

    I am an emotional eater and so the band doesn't stop me eating all junk food but what it does do is that it prevents me eating as much food as I would have pre-band. My weight loss hasn't been amazing, 30kg, but for almost a year I maintained which was a first for me. I was 150kg when I had the band done and if I hadn't of had it I know that I would be heavier now as I was never able to maintain weight, I got heavier every year.

    I am getting another fill done this/next week as I can eat more then I want to be able to eat. As for problems with the band it can leak (I am going to ask my Dr if he thinks this is possible with me as I can eat a lot more then I could a couple of weeks ago), it can erode (less likely with new bands being used) and it can slip. You can also gain weight with the band if you do not try and alter how you eat in anyway. I have known people who have lost 70kg in a year and others who have taken 5 years to lose 50kg. The key point though in my mind is that they lost this weight - no matter how long it took, the weight is gone.

    The first year for me was so easy that I thought all the weight would simply melt off, but time has shown that effort does have to go into it as does exercise. It is not an easy fix but it helps in many ways and I have never regretted getting it done.

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