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    EH – Noooooooooo That is terrible news. I am so sorry lovely that this cycle wasn’t successful. After everything you put into it. I admire your strength to keep going and your determination to get your BFP! There really isn’t anything I can say to make you feel better but take care of you Thinking of you honey and big hugs. I wonder what Kee will have planned for you next. Hopefully he will have the miracle cure for you. Have you considered going up to see Wazza?

    Mandse – Yay for your BFP darl! That is great news! You and DH must be stoked. When will you be due? My due date is about the 15th of Feb, most calendars would say the 8th but I know the exact date of O so I’m a week later. I’m 7weeks and 2 days now. Which OB will you use and when is your scan? Eeeekkk so exciting!

    Aunty – Whooo hooo at you and DH I think that DH and I got our mojo back when we made the change to beginning IVF, until we actually started cycling, just knowing the pressure was off us was a nice feeling. Long term TTC really puts a lot of pressure on relationships so its so good to hear you guys have got the magic back again! Ha ha ha ha ha @ your perve sessions!

    Jessesgirl – Yay for booking your appointment with Dr O. You will just loveee him. I would have booked my appointment already too. Its good to have something to look forward to, even if it’s a few months away. Yucko herbs. I don’t envy you taking those but good on you for keeping it up. I was doing TCM for a while and it was disgusting!

    Hi Kitty and Kalli hope your both going well!

    AFM – Sorry I haven’t been in much. I have had a killer hormone headache for the past 2 days and haven’t been feeling very well either. I think pregnancy has started to kick in for me (yep and still burping!). We have our 7.5 week scan tomorrow with Kee (having it early as he is away at the end of the week) so it will be our 7w3d scan instead. I am a bit nervous, hoping the baby is growing and its heart is still beating. I think with the increase in symptoms that something must be going right in there! I have truly felt awful the last couple of days, so that will teach me for whinging about having no symptoms and wanting some

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    Hi Girls - I am back

    Melbourne was great, we had about 5 days there and did lots of shopping and eating! The weather was actually quite warm and I found myself constantly peeling off clothes. In particular being in a hotel with nice central heating was a luxury we don't have here at the GC!

    Teags - how did your appointment go today?? I hope it went well and you have a beautiful heartbeat You wait, you'll get symptoms for a few weeks and then they will dissapear and you'll be worrying then as well This entire process is one giant worry from start to finish but it will all be worth it in the end!

    Mandse - Congrats again, I am glad all is going well!


    EH - that totally sucks. So soo sorry. I know all about the puffy eyes for days on end, it is honestly horrible feeling so depressed. Hang in there. Hopefully your appointment with Dr O will be any day now and you can work out what went wrong and how to fix it. Thinking of you guys....

    Kalli - still freaked out by our appointments together! I am going again tomorrow afternoon....just in case you see me again! And by the way, I remember someone being there when I first walked in, but don't remember a lack of makeup or appropriate dress - mainly because I had the same problem myself! Lost track of time and ran out the door in a flurry to the appointment

    Jessie - the girls are right, don't worry about your first appointment, it will bring you much happiness to finally have a plan, there is nothing to be nervous about. Our first appointment was just generally a run down on our fertility history. Because we already knew our problem was sperm, I had monash run a sperm test in the days before our appointment so Dr O could know what the current situation was, otherwise he might run some tests on both of you just to check where things are at. We use ISCI, and while I would prefer not to (obviously!) we don't have much choice as it improves your chances of IVF significantly. I think naturopaths would just be leaning towards less intervention rather than more so that you could ensure that the sperm are healthy. Actually you could ask Dr O about PICSI which is a process whereby they can make sure that the sperm have no DNA damage which might be worth looking into. We have not done accupuncture for DH (I have just started my first appointments now), but if we do another stim cycle it will DEFINATELY be on the agenda! No way I am going through all those drugs again without DH doing something as well

    As for me, I never really told you guys about the plans we worked out with Dr O. We decided to give this cycle a rest so we could go to Melbourne, eat and drink as normal, and then come back next month to do a FET. I couldn't stand the thought of going again straight away, I was just drained after last month. So, FET should be almost exactly a month away - beginning of August. In the meantime I am going to do everything I can to make myself healthy so this little bub will stick around......

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    Kitty if you are going again in August then hopefully we will be doing it at the same time! I hope so! Will be fun to cycle with you!

    Jesse we have to do ICSI as the sperm had to come straight from the testes using a biopsy (none were getting out the normal way). Apparently when this is the case, they have not yet learnt to swim so they have to use ICSI. Dr O will be pretty honest with you about whether you need it or not i think.

    Everyone else Hello!!

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    Kitty - I'm not going again until tomorrow but if we're ever there around the same time again we should go for a coffee at commune. I tend to go early Friday and Wednesday as they're kindy days for DS and it's easy to drop him off and go straight there. Glad melbs was a good time.

    aunty - I'm in August too so looks like this thread will be nice and busy then I love having people to cycle with.

    jessesgirl - good for you, booking your appointment will make you feel like you're moving towards something at least I agree with aunty - Dr O will be honest about if you need ICSI or not, we need it this time around because of poor fert rates last time. We are however boarderline and if it's not needed on the day they won't do it.

    My DH no longer has poor sperm count - we went from it being low enough that we were given a 2% chance of natural pregnancy if i was normal (I don't ovulate so I'm not ) to him scraping into the normal range through quitting smoking, drinking, diet change & adding supplaments so last cycle we had straight IVF but last time round (when trying for DS) it was his low count that had us needing ICSI. It really is a case by case basis - we've needed it for differnt reasons and at a point we didn't need it at all.

    Personally I think (and this is JMO) the naturopath has no right to have an opinion regarding if you should use ICSI or not - the professionals who have done years of study, decades of practice and thousands of IVF cases are in the best place to tell you what will work in your case. Sorry if that sounds *****y - I'm just so very frustrated at people who really have no business telling you what is good for you screwing with the heads of people going through IVF. I see a natruropath myself but it's complimentary to the real doctor - The naturopath doesn't "do" the ICSI, the scientist who works with eggs and sperm and embryos all day every day does and they ultimately make the decision if it's necessary - the naturopath has never even seen your eggs or sperm or embryos and can't possibly know if it's useful or not.

    Heh i just read that back and it sounds a bit preachy, sorry - honestly tho from my experience so far with Kee and Monash, it's not just a money making exercise which is more than I can say for my last clinic and they won't do anything you don't need - the goal is to get you pregnant in as little cycles as possible and they wll do what is best for you. Kee is the most amazing doctor, you are going to be in great hands.


    mandse - congrats again, so pleased things are still going well

    teags - I am so envious of your almost symptomless pregnancy so far. I am dreading being pregnant again, I had such a horriffic time of it. I know it's hard but try to just enjoy each day and don't spend it counting down to the next scan. I think I said before, apart from the terrible HG the worst thing about my pregnancy was that I couldn't just let mself enjoy it - there was always a milestone to meet before i could breathe but as soon as i hit that one there'd be another to count to. I don't want that for you. Infertile girls are over-educated on what can go wrong , infertilitt robs us of a lot but it shouldn't rob us from enjoying the ride when we do finally get pregnant

    AFM - Not much going on, waiting for AF which I hope comes soon because we were going to rest another cycle but if she doesn't arrive in the next week we might have to think about maybe going straight into a cycle - basically we have a wedding last week of September that we're away a week and a half for so whatever we do I want it finished by mid September so if it doesn't work i have time to grieve before I face all the newborns and young kids that are going to be there (lots of heavily pregnant women in that group of friends atm too). and with my 45 day + cycles and Kee insisting we don't bring on with provera the timing is all up in the air and kinda scary.

    got a tablet as a sorry IVF didn't work present and still getting used to the keyboard/predictive text so sorry for all the mistakes in this posts lol, somehow all my crappy typing mistakes have been added to the user dictionary and now real words are being replaced by mistaken ones

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    Wow we've certainly gone quiet in here now haven't we!

    Hello!

    KALLI- any sign of AF yet? Hope she turns up soon for you.

    KITTY- so glad you had a great time in Melbourne And yay for your plan! A cycle off does you good too.

    TEAGS- how did your scan go?? How are you feeling? Still getting headaches? Update please! No, not thinking of going to Wazza. I have faith in Kee and honestly, after all we've been through, I don't have the energy to start seeing a new person, and in Brisbane at that.

    JESSIE- Sandra is awesome Glad you're all booked and ready to go! Bring on the 20th!

    AUNTY- that's so great that things are going well between you guys now Go the honeymoon lol, hope it lasts!

    AFM- saw Kee, and he's got a few things to try and tweak for next cycle, but he really felt like he did all he needed to last time. So, when he gets back from OS, he'll call me to come in and I'm having an implant of [can't remember the name] which is the same as Synarel. He wants to try a looooooooooooooooooong down reg for us, to make my endo go dormant. So menopause for 2-3 months DH is going to love that lol. Then it will be stimming with Gonal and Synarel, no orgalutran. I'm allergic to aspirin so he's considering clexane too. I think all else will stay the same (melatonin, prednisilone, intralipid infusion). Oh, he's also going to consult with other specialists while he's away about using saizen on me....but he said he's not convinced that it's suited to our situation.

    So seeing as we won't be cycling till likely Sept/Oct, we're thinking of going away for a little holiday. And in other news, which has come all of a sudden, we've begun the adoption process for our DFD! So far things are going smoothly, but that is very strange, so I'm just waiting for the roadblocks

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    Hi Ladies

    I have been trying to get on here for DAYS but the site wasn’t working every time I tried! Frustrating!

    EH – A holiday sounds like a fab idea. Where would you go? Oh that is exciting about starting the adoption process for your DFD. I have no idea whats involved but I am sure its extremely in-depth and I really hope things keep going smoothly with it all. Im glad that you have so much faith in Kee. He must be so determined to get you UTD! Have you done a long down reg before? I wonder what the other specialists will have to say about you….???? Have you felt your ears burning yet? I hope one of them will have the idea that is what it takes for you to get pregnant on your next cycle. I really do.

    Kalli – I hear you exactly on the infertility and us knowing too much. It does make you more anxious about your pregnancy for sure. Has AF showed up for you yet? Hopefully the witch did show up so you can stick to the plan for your cycle. God there is nothing worse than knowing you are going to be around pregnant people and babies etc etc when you are going through all of this. I found it so hard spesh when people started asking about us and when we were going to start trying! Argh so annoying. Oh fancy with your tablet! Ha ha ha ha @ your dictionary my Iphone does that all the time. Its terrible.

    Kitty – Your Melbourne trip sounds fabulous! Very jealous. Will you do a natural FET or medicated? I’m not sure what Monash do? It would have been nice to have the break and try and forget about IVF and everything to do with it. Good luck with getting healthy I find it so hard to stay healthy in winter. Its just too cold to exercise and eat healthy when all the winter food is so delish! Not too mention red wine is perfect for the temperature.


    AFM – Scan was perfect. Due date has been pushed back a few days to the 17th of Feb. I am going to be petrified of having a leap year baby if I go overdue! The headaches have gone, which is good and I had been feeling awful last week but am feeling a lot more normal this week apart from getting really tired. DH’s family all thought I was hungover at lunch yesterday, which I just rolled with so I must be looking awful! My boobs are really sore again. Which I am happy with the symptom. It’s a lot better then feeling awful. I’m eating tonnes, which is a bit worrying but DH says that I probably needed to put a kg or 2. I have put on 2kgs already! Lol Last week eating was the only thing that stopped me feeling sick. We have our last and final appointment with Kee next Friday. I will be just over 9 weeks. He will then give me my referral for my NT scan and then its off to the OB for us. Scary not too see Kee anymore. He is just so lovely and still told me to come in if I am stressed and have a scan whenever I want. Bless the man.

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    Oh TEAGS that is wonderful news!! SO happy for you! I'd be nervous/anxious about moving onto an ob too....but you'll be fine, all is on track! Kee truly IS a wonderful man isn't he. Our review appt was initially for Fri, but he called me during the week to change it to Sat morn (before he went away) because they only put us in for 15mins and he wanted longer. He really does care! LOL @ family thinking you're hungover!

    And I have done down reg before, twice, but just the 'standard' down reg with the pill and synarel. This one is going to be a super long one lol. After 10+ years what's another 3 months?!! lol

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    Hi girls,

    How was your weekend! I went out to celebrate Melba's 30th Birthday! Choirboys were there so my DH was in his element!! but in the back of my head I was thinking 'ohh shouldnt be doing this' - we decided from this week its back to the usual health mode, been lazy the last few weeks - too cold to get up and go to the gym!

    Just out of curiousity, I was wondering if any of you gorgeous girls put on weight during a cycle? Have read that you can put on a few kgs... if so not really looking forward to that!!

    TEAGS- Wow, awesome, awesome news!! glad alls going well for you, has it settled in that your really, really UTD?

    kalliope- Yep, feel so much better now its booked in, was actually thinking of changing it to early August, I know he was going away in mid August, but anywho was thinking of changing it to earlier as now my cycle has changed to a reg 28 day from 31, I will be due to start AF on the 29th ish of August and didnt know if I was leaving it too late to do tests etc by then if we are seeing him on the 20th... What do you think? Sandra said something about doing an U/S on the Sat morning Im there and a test to check my egg quality? what does that involve? It actually shocked me when my naturopath said he rarely likes to use ICSI.. I thought that would be the way to go to make sure they formed an emby... I guess I will find out soon enough... Only a few more weeks of herbs and then they are gone!! so gross!!!! Dont be silly, never thought you were preaching at all!!

    Kitty- Ohh so jealous of your break! I love Melbourne, such great food and culture! Never a bad coffee down there too! My DH has never been there so really would love to take him down there soon!

    Hey girls, just wondering when you think we should start accupuncture? How long before your first cycle? and after? My DH is still alittle iffy about the whole acc process, Im def going to do it..

    Hope all are well!! Talk soon!

    xx

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    Hey Jess, sorry just quick cause I'm on my phone, but I'd start acu ASAP. I've been going for a year, and if you're going to the right person, they can start getting you 'ready' for treatment. Good luck! X

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    jessesgirl - just quickly because I'm on my way out. If your DH has MFI he needs to be starting a minimum of 3 months before IVF sperm health right now is a reflection of 3 months ago, not a reflection of today. So it takes a minimum of 3 months to show any improvement from positive things you do now

    Hi to all, things are a bit nuts here, still no AF but we've got two weeks of family visiting so can barely breathe!


 

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