Three year old alcoholic being treated in London

**Purplebird** · 15-03-2011 10:37

http://au.news.yahoo.com/entertainme...ver-alcoholic/

Not much shocks me, as I've seen a lot during my career. This though, is terribly heartbreaking. It left me wondering how this might happen? A child of alcoholics perhaps? Or maybe a child being given alcohol to keep it quiet. I truly hope this child recovers without any brain injury.

**RoarsomeMum** · 15-03-2011 10:48

I'd like more info. What is their definition of the disease? How did the child survive at all? Was it treatment for Alcohol overdose that resulted in symptoms of alcoholism? I am Very

.. No real info at all I can see.

**share a book** · 15-03-2011 11:02

Either way the child is too young for alcohol anyway

**happygrl** · 15-03-2011 11:05

That's so terrible. In par with the young child that was addicted to cigarettes last year.

**Atlantic Puffin** · 15-03-2011 11:11

Although this is extremely sad and horrid, in London it doesn't surprise me.
As some people know mil adoption her half niece from London .. She was living in the foster car system and conditions were horrific - to say the least.

I hope that baby is now in a safe environment.

**Purplebird** · 15-03-2011 11:13

Originally Posted by RoarsomeMum

I'd like more info. What is their definition of the disease? How did the child survive at all? Was it treatment for Alcohol overdose that resulted in symptoms of alcoholism? I am Very

.. No real info at all I can see.

I agree - I was frustrated to find so little information too. I'll see if I can find out the specifics.

**Atlantic Puffin** · 15-03-2011 11:26

Unfortunately no one will ever know. The councils over there ... Their only concern is to cover their own back sides and not look bad to the world.

Even just..... Take for example their medical system. (off track from their below standard social work system) This day and age, in LONDON you can be diagnosed with HIV, and due to lack of medical attention and concern, it's something like 45% go on within 18 months to have full blown AIDS, and around 25% are dead within 3 years. But no one hears about this because they cover it up. We are in 2011!! People can live in aus for 20+ years with HIV!!!

Sorry but I have a very bitter taste in my mouth from what they have done to our family. Horrible, horrible, horrible.

Not saying the parents aren't to blame, but more then likely the councils knew all about it long before, but didn't act. Sad but true.

**Purplebird** · 15-03-2011 11:55

Originally Posted by Atlantic Puffin

Unfortunately no one will ever know. The councils over there ... Their only concern is to cover their own back sides and not look bad to the world.

Even just..... Take for example their medical system. (off track from their below standard social work system) This day and age, in LONDON you can be diagnosed with HIV, and due to lack of medical attention and concern, it's something like 45% go on within 18 months to have full blown AIDS, and around 25% are dead within 3 years. But no one hears about this because they cover it up. We are in 2011!! People can live in aus for 20+ years with HIV!!!

Sorry but I have a very bitter taste in my mouth from what they have done to our family. Horrible, horrible, horrible.

Not saying the parents aren't to blame, but more then likely the councils knew all about it long before, but didn't act. Sad but true.

I'm really sorry to hear your family has had a terrible time, but I think it's very unfair to generalise like that. The child protection system in the UK is woefully flawed, yes. There have been some awful cases of missed neglect. However, I really don't think you can say that UK social workers
systematically and deliberately ignore neglect or abuse. In fact, the system has had a huge overhaul in the last few years. There have been terrible failures in this country too. A response to any allegation is only as good as the individual who goes to investigate it, that's the reality. In addition, the National Health System is still one of the best, entirely free medical services. I would like to see the statistics for the HIV vs AIDS rates, as I have not heard this before.

Again, I'm sorry you have had an awful experience, but as a Londoner I feel I have to defend my homeland (even though this article really disgraces us!).

**delirium** · 15-03-2011 12:02

That is so so sad

Right before I fell pg with DD I was offered a job as a CP worker in Slough, London, one of the really impoverised boroughs. The UK heavily recuit from Australia, offering handsome salary packages and free airfares. When I asked the Team Leader in Slough why they recuit so much from oz, he said that social workers in the UK only study for 2 years, not 4 like in Australia and do half the field placements.

SoI suspect along with chronic under funding,lack of training is another aspect.

**RoarsomeMum** · 15-03-2011 12:21

Is alcoholism a registered "disease" with medically tested criteria or a "syndrome" attributed to all kinds of results????

My DD is in a FAS test study from birth to 18 because I am an alcoholic and drank when pregnant. She is bright and wonderful (thank GOD!) yet her ability to process alcohol was high - as shown in her Breast feeding tests.)

I am Beyond interested in what "Alcoholic" means in this case.