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    The other, often mistaught, grammatical rule is -s's. For example James's. If you pronounce the 'zzz' sound then you must add the -'s. I often have the young people arguing with me over this rule as they were told it's James'.

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    I hate hate hate it when people use the word "of" when writing a date.

    For example: "31st of January 2011"

    It is either "31 January 2011" or "The 31st day of January 2011"

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    This is going to sound quite mean, but I have a little spelling error i hate seeing

    "taht'

    I dont know why but my brain doesn't read it properly

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelle65 View Post
    I hate hate hate it when people use the word "of" when writing a date.

    For example: "31st of January 2011"

    It is either "31 January 2011" or "The 31st day of January 2011"
    Yes yes. This one!

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    I am going to tell on myself...

    Disappear is NOT dissapear.

    Disappoint is NOT dissapoint.



    I always change the S and the P numbers around.

    James's? Really? I have always only ever heard that you do James'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil View Post
    The other, often mistaught, grammatical rule is -s's. For example James's. If you pronounce the 'zzz' sound then you must add the -'s. I often have the young people arguing with me over this rule as they were told it's James'.
    Oh yes! I think a lot of confusion is caused by biblical names, because it's correct to write Jesus' or Moses' but the same rule doesn't apply to modern writing. Goodness knows why!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambjam View Post
    Oh yes! I think a lot of confusion is caused by biblical names, because it's correct to write Jesus' or Moses' but the same rule doesn't apply to modern writing. Goodness knows why!
    Maybe because Jesus and Moses both have 2 s sounds? You wouldn't say Jesuses (example for phonetics only) but James is different. Maybe? Brainstorming

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    Maybe because Jesus and Moses both have 2 s sounds?
    No, it remains one. With the apostrophe on the right side of one s. And this being so as more than one s is considered redundant.
    Whether or not it's a biblical name is irrelevant. The same rule applies to names ending in s and in all forms of writing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussyfoot View Post
    No, it remains one. With the apostrophe on the right side of one s. And this being so as more than one s is considered redundant.
    Whether or not it's a biblical name is irrelevant. The same rule applies to names ending in s and in all forms of writing.
    It's actually not irrelevant; biblical and classical names are treated differently in that they never require the extra "s". As to modern names, it comes down to being a style issue; most modern style manuals now require the extra "s", eg "James's", "Charles's". As one of these sites says, it's not required but preferred.

    http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/apostro.asp
    http://www.englishforums.com/English...wvcrn/post.htm
    http://www.deakin.edu.au/current-stu...outs/apost.php
    http://www.ehow.com/how_5150810_use-apostrophe-s.html

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    Yes. I forgot to mention that it doesn't apply to biblical names! Funny, as I was thinking it at the time.

    Our reference was the commonwealth guide to English usage.


 

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