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    I will ask the question tomorrow with my ob. I will let you know it is is an option worth considering...I've always wanted to go natual, but with my parents first g/s and their o/s for 3.5 months, I want them to get the chance to see bubs first - so that is my plight(???)
    Otherwise I think you have to have a ligiment medical reason to have a c/s - well from previous post threaders comments.


    Hi malu - Your welcome to post, I want to gain as much information as possible from people who have experience this and keep my mind at bay..Likewise for yourself next time round - you will know what to expect and how to deal with it

    I noted that your IC and your loss..im so very sorry. 23 weeks is a very long time. I know I would be beside myslef. Its taken me 6 years to have this child let alone a natual conception. I don't know what I will do if anything should happen to this baby. This may be a little in personal - no pressure to answer/respond..beside a possible routine scan how did you know he was no longer alive??

    Im a little concerned at the moment which I will bring to ob attention and maybe this is somthing I need to post on another thread - just many times are you to expect to feel bubs kick or move??.. I tell you its such a relief to feel movement and worry when you don't

    with my previous pregnancy loss with twins m/c at 14 weeks) it was said I had an IC and that for the next pregnancy I would need a stitch. I fell pregnant last year in Aug while selling our home in Adelaide... It wasn't until I moved here to Melb that I had intensive examinations done and learnt I most certainly needed a stitch. Up till 16 weeks I was borderline and then by 18 weeks it was declared that I needed one. a week later I was admitted to hospital.
    From reading alot of people posts - the average stitch put in place is 12-14 weeks

    My doctor is Dr Anthony Woodward, works at the Espon Freemans Hospital.
    I would recommend him to anyone. I don't think I would be where I am today without his close monitioring/attention. I really do believe the years of IVF back in Adelaide without a child - doctors had given up on me altogether

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shantelle View Post
    Yeah I can see my posts increase too

    i was told no cooking but really besides being on your feet, why the need to avoid it? i dont trust my hubby as it is in the kitchen and knowing him it would be take out each night if he had his own way...


    were you both closely monitored at all?

    I have been seeing my obyn every two weeks since 14 weeks and was told it would be up to 22 weeks - this was before my stitch was done. I would presume now montioring will continue up until the stitch is removed???

    can you opt to have the labour induced at the same time as the stirch removal?
    i would love to have my parents meet our son prior to their o/s trip a couple weeks later. 36.5 weeks is when i am told he would remove it..
    my posts went up big time!

    i saw my OB 3weekly until the stitch went in at 14 weeks, basically he told me any later than 16 weeks and its a lot harder to do unless its a emergency insert as such.... after the stitch i stayed at 3 weekly appts until 28weeks when we had some issues and i saw him weekly from then.

    my OB wouldnt induce me the day the stitch was removed becasue he said generally ppl with IC as bad as i have it generally deliver within 48hrs so we waited and nothing happened so at my request at my next check up 4 days later i was 4cm with buldging waters and he induced me then.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malu View Post
    Hi Shantelle, Im very interested in your thread!
    My next pregnancy, which I hope wont be to far away, I have to have a stitch due to IC and I noticed you are in Melb, any chance you dont mind sharing who your Ob is? I have an Ob and am going for a visit in 2 weeks to discuss everything, but Im not sure how many he has done or how good he is etc, so would love a little more info. Feel free to PM if you prefer.

    Also was yours put in at 19wks as they only discovered your changes then or is that when your Ob suggested? I think my Ob said about 12weeks. Sorry just curious.

    Oh and if you are interested there is an American IC forum which has heaps of good info on stitches etc, just google it, someone here suggested it to me and I have found it useful.

    Sorry to hijack your thread!
    hey hun...

    not sure which area of melb ur in but im a melbournite as well and cant recommend my OB highly enough...
    his name is steve hatzikostas and delivers at Northpark Private Bundoora and The Mercy for Women in heidelberg.

    oh and as for extra monitoring i also had fortnightly scans up until 24 weeks to keep an eye on my cervix length and the position of the stitch, my OB uses a specialist US place where the tech's are not only US techs but OB's as well so they can explain things to me there and then.

    im not sure if malu's situation is like mine with our loss but we knew i had a shorter than average cervix but my OB didnt think it was a concern so we chose to monitor things and then at 21weeks i went into labour, was put in hospital on total bed rest ( not even allowed up for the loo) and labour was stopped but becasue my cervix was open i contracted a infection and went into labour a week later and they couldnt stop it becasue the infection was to bad and my Ds was delivered alive at 22w1d.

    malu could u please pm the link to the IC forum id like to have a look but cant find it on google? thanks!

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    My loss was at 17 weeks, and I also went into labour- cramping and bleeding are the most common symptoms of a loss due to IC.
    There was no reason to suspect IC in my case, so I didn't have any sort of monitoring, and no indication of needing a stitch before my loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naebie View Post
    My loss was at 17 weeks, and I also went into labour- cramping and bleeding are the most common symptoms of a loss due to IC.
    There was no reason to suspect IC in my case, so I didn't have any sort of monitoring, and no indication of needing a stitch before my loss.
    oh god hun thats terrible i guess we were "lucky" in the sense we knew there was a slight chance something might go wrong but neither our OB or us thought it would , hind sight is such a wonderful thing looking back obivously we would have done the stitch after that first scan that showed the short cervix

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    hI summahmummy - I read that two about labor within 48/72 hours of removal, but knowing my luck, will most likely fall into the same catagory as you and it wont evenuate.

    Wow - that is confronting about the early arrival of bubs at 22 weeks. Being admitted the week before - what else did they do you to improve bubs survival and offcourse stablise your situation beside bed rest?
    Did they give you any meds to boost up bubs lungs at all. I read they they give some steriod meds to improve the condition just incase bubs decides to enter the world.. Geez that must of been really scary not knowing if bubs will survive, I have only read one story so far on the net of survival before 24 weeks.. Im so scared of this happening I mean what reassureance do I have they will do everything in their power to keep bubs alive...shouldn't this be discussed so you know what do expect and what the future hold? Or am I just asking to much of obyns???

    Naebie - I seriously think Cervical lenght monitoring should be apart of the antenatal check ups. regardless of how many times you have become pregnant. They know every pregnany is different so why don't they offer this???

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    There really wasn't much they could do.
    We had to decide if we wanted intervention on Gus and had a meeting with the head of NICU and after that we decided against it, ill pm u if u want details coz it's not the nicest thing to read about.
    I was in nifedipine to stop labour and anti-biotics to try and combat the infection but it was to bad.

    If I was say 23-24 weeks I would have been given steroids for his lungs but I wasn't close enough to a survival point.

    Hun it should 100% be discussed its stuff you HAVE to know if ur in our situation as far as I'm concerned and I don't think ur expecting to much for wanting to know that!

    I totally agree with cervical monitoring being made apart of preg checks, our US place automatically does it at any scans thankfully but my OB obviously requests it for me just to make sure it's done, but after my 1.5 pregnancies they know me! Lol.

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    Shantelle - Im sorry about your twins, I think sometimes bad things have to happen so we can find out things, well in my situation anyway.

    Back in 2008 my DD arrived at 32wks for no true reason (well I know now!), Ob checked my cervix the day prior it was apparently closed, then within a few hrs I was fully dialated and had her. So after this we did lots of testing all fine.

    So this preg Ob was doing more reg scans at similar place to Summahmummy (Ob Dr does the scans) where they checked my cervix, it was stable at 3.5cm until my 23 + 4day scan where it had funnelled open to 3mm with bulging membranes so they transferd me to hosp on bedrest in t/breg postition. Ob also gave me nifedipene, progestrone pessries, and antibiotics however the next morning I started cramping/contracting and by the time Ob came in 30min later I was in full labour with no return. So NICU paed came in and after a realistic discussion (keeping mind we have done the NICU/SCN with DD) we made our decision to let him go, I know that sounds harsh but you need to walk in my shoes to understand. Anyway as he was footling breech and once his legs where delivered Ob noticed the cord wasnt pulsating, so he was never going to make it. Which made me feel better, if you can, about the decidsion we had made.
    So DS died on exit so to speak,as he was moving around fine up until that point.

    I hope I havent freaked you out but its my little story.

    So after this I was told that next pregnacy would be bedrest, no sex, no activity, and a stitch at 12wks but I still need to ask lots of question to my Ob.

    Summahmummy the IC site is (minus the blanks!)
    http:// ic . hobh . org

    Thank you both for you Ob names, Ive written them down! I live near the city so delivered both at Frances Perry at the Women's, I hope to go there again as its nice and close to home and the care was terrific each time but I want a good Ob too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malu View Post
    So this preg Ob was doing more reg scans at similar place to Summahmummy (Ob Dr does the scans) where they checked my cervix, it was stable at 3.5cm until my 23 + 4day scan where it had funnelled open to 3mm with bulging membranes so they transferd me to hosp on bedrest in t/breg postition. Ob also gave me nifedipene, progestrone pessries, and antibiotics however the next morning I started cramping/contracting and by the time Ob came in 30min later I was in full labour with no return. So NICU paed came in and after a realistic discussion (keeping mind we have done the NICU/SCN with DD) we made our decision to let him go, I know that sounds harsh but you need to walk in my shoes to understand. Anyway as he was footling breech and once his legs where delivered Ob noticed the cord wasnt pulsating, so he was never going to make it. Which made me feel better, if you can, about the decidsion we had made.
    So DS died on exit so to speak,as he was moving around fine up until that point.

    I hope I havent freaked you out but its my little story.

    So after this I was told that next pregnacy would be bedrest, no sex, no activity, and a stitch at 12wks but I still need to ask lots of question to my Ob.

    Summahmummy the IC site is (minus the blanks!)
    http:// ic . hobh . org

    Thank you both for you Ob names, Ive written them down! I live near the city so delivered both at Frances Perry at the Women's, I hope to go there again as its nice and close to home and the care was terrific each time but I want a good Ob too.
    hun ur story is a lot like mine, we had to make the same choice after speaking to the NICU head paed it sux and its the worst decision anyone ever has to make

    thanks for the website

    we had to to do the no sex, no activity, bed rest thing this time, and as painful as it is, and boring, it worked wonders for us ......

    your welcome! my OB does the public clinic at the RWH but he only does private at the 2 hospys i mentioned.

    if u decide to change hospitals, i was so happy with northpark, actually the same at the mercy when i delivered DS there, but northpark was amazing

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    oh malu - your story had me in tears... Im so sorry. It would had to have been the most hardest decision you both ever had to make. I at the moment after reading your storying and knowing what I have been through to get to this stage in pregnancy will most turn a blind eye to the risks and give everying thing a go. As sad as it may seem and a bit selfish for mysake I want to be able to give my baby the chance it deserved even if it meant he/she died trying to live. I can only begin to imagine what you been through at the moment, I have been through the loss but not this far along. I have never in the past attached myslef to any of the pregnanices for the fear of loosing them..but I reached a point in tis pregnancy now that I have felt the baby move, seen the heartbeat and heard it and each week I just grow fonder and appreciate what god us gave us... I think I will be a nervous wreak and will never be the same person ever again if this happens.. (im still in tears)

    I think the best thing is for me to not even consider going back to work and just sit on the couch and be a couch potato... Im not risking this one - thats for sure..

    Moving on - I had my 21 week scan and on happy note, bubs is doing fine..he has all his bits and pcs and moving around like a 21 week old bubs should be..
    He weights 350g grams - apparently the right weight for this gestation. here I was worried I wasnt eating as much due to my gastic banding in place!!

    Summahmummy - pls pm if you are in the state to relive those moments... no pressure..

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    Shantelle - thats ok everyone has the right to there opinion thats why the Drs give you the info and get you to decide, dont feel bad about it. Fingers crossed you dont have to cross this road, like Summahmummy who Im very excited to see made it to 37 wks may be you will too, for me any pregnancy past 32wks would be good! I cant wait to be a couch potatoe, you enjoy that time and all the best for the rest of your pregnancy

    Summahmummy- Yeah our stories seem similar, now I want your 37wk preg!! Im seeing my Ob on the 16th so hopefully he doesnt make me wait to long to start TTC, but Im willing to wait if it has a better outcome.


 

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