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    Hi Sydney ladies - feels like its been sooo long with everyones posts - so hard catching up on everyone!!!!

    EO - so sorry bout your BFN with POAS - still waiting to hear about your BT??? I actually had to laugh at your wet dream - haha - had a few of those myself \!!!

    Nat - contrats on everything going on in your life a bubba would be the cherry on the cake!!! BTW - what is D&C????? and was that an engagement party invite we all got - lol

    PB - hope your stim cycle is going well and quartz - on your frosty!!! wow... in your TWW

    Mrs Daisy - I hear ya wiht the control thing, I am the same even DH and his mates call me warden or Gov causes I'm that controlling and do not like it when things don't go my way - especially when I don't know the answers!!!

    to everyone else out there!!!

    AFM - well went to FS and she wants me to start short stim cycle (1st try) and has increased my Puregon to 350 (started on 150 1st cycle, then 200 2nd cycle) as I'm understimulated and not getting enough eggs to try to fertilise for a 5DT. Just waiting for AF to come (due yesterday I thought - but with unsucessful cycle who knows if I've got correct dates) hoping comes before Sunday as I'm off to Adelaide from Tuesday PM until Friday night and with short stim cycle I need a BT on day 2 - anyone know much about short stim cycle???

    Well this time 2 years ago was off to Daydream Island with family and friends for my wedding (anniversay is Mon) !!!! wish I was back there now

    Good Luck all and for us all in 2011

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    EO, sent you a PM darl and sending more
    I do have to say I LOL at your orgasm comment, lucky girl!! I have had more sexy dreams in last little while but I had attributed that to DHEA, hmmmm maybe the IVF gods are trying to give us a little something back during this whole hellish business??

    Quartz, 100% thaw is awesome

    MrsDaisy, the IVF road is hard particularly if you do have to do repeated cycles, but the prize so rewarding, which I guess is what keeps us all going! You sound like an incredible survivor to me which will put you in good stead for what lies ahead. you are one of the lucky ones and get a BFP first go. Yep I will put my hand up and confess that I am a total control freak in many areas of my life, but as you have already worked out so much of what happens in your upcoming cycle will be out of your hands. What you can control is looking after yourself, get good sleep, find times to rest and relax and importantly connect with your DH. I also find I can take control back through eating really well, doing acupuncture and generally knowing I am giving this bl00dy IVF thing everything I've got and that is the best I can do

    Crofty, all the best for your antagonist cycle I have done a couple and personally prefer them over the long down reg, much quicker and less drugs. Happy Anniversary for Monday

    Nat, sorry to hear your body is not playing nicely It has taken a couple of months for me to get a proper AF after my D&C also, but seems to be on track now. You have a lot of exciting things happening in your life right now! All the best for the wedding plans and really hope you get that bubba in before the big day!

    PinkB, Lindylou and all the other Sydney girls, hope you're warm and dry this weekend.

    AFM, we have decided to go for the PGD cycle and find out once for all what's happening with these embies. Also I just cannot bear the thought of going through another MC so this is one way to avoid it. Of course the risk is that we won't have any normal embies to transfer but then at least we'll know and can think about other options. So have started taking the pill for a long down reg cycle (have never had to take the pill before for down reg and it feels really counterintuitive consider we are TTC! ) The PGD cycles are batched and they are planning my EPU for around May 20, so a loooong road to go yet but DH and I are busy with our yucky chinese herbs, eating warming foods, rattling with vitamins and weekly acupuncture! Let no stone be left unturned!
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    Hi ladies,

    Starfish: Thanks so much for your message darl, it’s so kind you were thinking of me, I really appreciated it. My next cycle in July will be the long down reg cycle as well and I thought the same thing about the pill, feels very odd to take that in order to get pregnant. I think the PGD is a great idea, like you I would be worried about not having embies to freeze, but if it meant that or having one placed back inside that would result in a miscarriage then I would prefer the no emby option. MC are really hard to get through and they take a long time to recover, both physically and emotionally. Is your DH also doing acupuncture?

    Crofty: Happy Anniversary darl. Has AF showed up yet darl? If she hasn’t are you able to get your clinic to give you a referral to a blood collection centre and have it done when your away? I have had it done like that before as AF showed up at an unexpected time and it worked. All the best for the short cycle, I love them , its all over with so quickly and its such a short period of time to be all pumped up on the drugs.

    Lindylou: So darl I have take a leaf out of your book and signed up at Sharkeys on the Gold Coast for a full detailed herbs and vitamins mix. I am going to hold off on my appt with them until after my FS next Tuesday and will then be ordering all my and DH herbs. I am really excited about it, I have read everything on their website over the weekend and have some great ideas. How are you guys going with all your herbs? Does your DH take his normal vitamins as well as all the herbs?

    PinkButterfly: How is your cycle going darl? Do you have a BT and US today? Can’t wait t hear the good news about all your eggies your growing? How do you feel with all the new drugs your on this time?

    MrsDaisyP: DH and I have been through similar issues about having a house or using our money to make a baby. DH had a good point and said to me there is no point in us having a big dream home if we don’t have babies to fill it, so we have decided to use all our money we saved for a house deposit to try and make our family. My big issue is my emotions, I find it really hard to deal with repeated failures and obstacles and a lot of this is due to me not having control (I am a control freak) I have found though that having lots of info helps about everything IVF related helps a lot. I feel like I have put my whole life on hold for IVF, I know people say to continue living your life and don’t worry about it, but its hard not to when you are having BT, appointments, waiting on phone calls or being home in time for injections. I figure when my kids are eventually old enough to leave home, then that’s when I will do my travelling, money will come and go but family is for life.

    Nat: Wow its all happening for you ate the moment. Hope your body has started to settle down a little bit babe. It sucks that it throws it out of whack that much. I bled for 27 days after my MC, once I got to the next period though (7 weeks later) it was all sorted and they have been fine since. So will your app with your FS be to discuss new things for your next cycle? Hope you had a great weekend with DF, it must have been great to have him home.

    AFM: So my BT on Friday came back as HCG of 1.1, the little bugger didn’t even try and implant. So following on from that news I had an absolute bender of a weekend to try and drown my sorrows from my failed cycle. I know I am not supposed to do it but I couldn’t help myself and I ate everything I wasn’t supposed to eat and drink in the last 12 months, coke, alcohol, ice cream and chocolate and it all tasted so good, I feel a little toxic today though. Given it’s only been 3 days into our 4 month break, I am already really struggling. DH and I are off to see a counselor this afternoon to see if that can help. I am really looking forward to it as DH hasn’t spoken to anyone about us doing IVF ever so it will be really interesting to hear, we do talk about it a lot together but it will be different to have a third person there.

    I have my follow up appt with my FS tomorrow to go over a few things and we then have an appointment with our new FS next Tuesday (its so good we got in so soon) I have a huge list of questions already for him. I really hope because he is a specialist for DH specific issue that he can give us lots of new info, I really don’t know why my FS didn’t get us to see this other guy in the first place. I have also decided to push for a NK biopsy before our next stim cycle.



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    Hi Girls,

    Sorry to be MIA for the past week, been busier than a one legged man in a butt kicking contest!

    Starf1sh- Thanks for complimenting our paintings. I am not artistic whatsoever, total science geek in fact! The only way I was able to do the paintings was to have the steps broken down for me into a ‘formula’ of sorts. The concert was great, although I reckon the support band Grinspoon outshined the main act. Another cycle has begun for you, lets hope that your intensive prep regime and bringing out the PGD big guns brings you great news about your embies, and better still, a super dooper sticky one!

    PinkB- Thanks to you too, we have been overwhelmed with how much everyone has liked the paintings. My MIL even sent photos back to their relatives overseas (only my MIL, FIL, SIL and DH are here, all their family are back in Europe). How did your BT go? Any news on follie counts?

    EO- Oh hun, where do I start? I feel so crushed for you... so sorry that you had to endure another BFN . Friggin hell, its not fair! I got my hopes up when you confessed your ‘special’ dream, because I was stalking the due in Apr/May/Jun thread for a while (keeping tabs on my Jul 2010 cycle buddies who got their BFPs) and several of them had those dreams in their early stages of pregnancy. If only that could have been the reason for yours too! Now, what haven’t I answered yet? I did weigh in at boot camp and lost 0.5kg. I’m not fussed as its not my priority to lose any, I just want to stay active and keep my energy levels up. My endo appt for my thyroid is still 2.5 weeks away... Thanks for your comments on our paintings, we will keep it up. Suddenly all the cheap prints in our house look lame in comparison, so we’re hoping to replace them one by one with a real painting! I hope Sharkey’s are as helpful to you as they have been to us, yes my DH takes all the vitamins they nominated plus the herbal tonic. If you don’t already chart your BBT, start now. The more temp data you can log before you sign up (use the chart on their website), the better. Great to hear that you’ll be seeing your new FS so quickly! Hope he/she is proactive and takes all your concerns seriously, esp regarding NK cells. Good luck at the counselling session tonight .

    Quartz- Yay for a perfect thaw and being PUPO!

    MrsDaisy- have your cold feet settled now? The way I see it, material things like houses can be bought later in life and luxuries like travel are nice to have, not HAVE to have... neither of these compares to having kids (well for me anyway). I really hope you get lucky first go and the investment in IVF is minimal for you. I think if you don’t try though, you will live to regret it and that can’t be soothed with a house or a holiday.

    Nat- Sounds like you’re full steam ahead with a bunch of irons in the fire! Hope your body works itself out so you can get a FET underway soon.

    Crofty- Happy Anniversary!! OMG, a wedding on Daydream Island, must have been beautiful. I did a short stim cycle and I had no BT at Day 2. I started jabbing on Day 5, and had first BT on Day 11, 2nd BT on Day 13, then EPU on Day 16. Has AF turned up yet?

    AFM- I was out ‘in the field’ last week, so now have new reports to write plus a few older ones that I haven’t written yet, and loads of other stuff to do at work. Just submitted my USA visa application, good lord, the questions they ask! Both Sat and Sun were hectic with voting, shopping, cleaning, cooking, painting, going out and having visitors. We have relatives from the UK in town, my grandfather’s cousin & his wife, who my Pop hadn’t seen in 60 yrs! They spent Sun night at our house and now they’ve headed off on a 10 day road trip. Sat was also the 2nd anniversary of my Mum’s passing, and her ashes are in our garden, so we had family coming & going to bring flowers and pay their respects. I think of my Mum, I see her resting place through my kitchen window, and I miss her every single day, but there’s something about the anniversary that just makes it all fresh again and I can’t hold back the tears . I'm better today though .

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    Hello ladies. Thank you for your encouraging words. Unfortunately today I spoke to my FS and was advised that my last BTs showed a problem with my thyroid, namely an elevated TSH of 5.08. I must see an endocrinologist and get it sorted before I will be allowed to do IVF or any Assisted Reproduction. I'm gutted.
    My thyroid was picked up in a neck Xray I had from my car accident about 19 months ago. If only it had been properly investigated I would be able to go full steam ahead. Right now I want to chain smoke and cry all night long.
    However, I'm such a damned fighter I have already tried to get an appointment at RPA with the endo asap. They are calling me back tomorrow (the secretary is lovely by the way).
    I know this will sound stupid in advance, and I apologise, but I feel like an IVF fraud at the moment, like I was never meant to be there, or here. I'm sure many of you have experienced all sorts of setbacks, but I'm just going to allow myself to feel sorry and pathetic for 12 hours and then I'll be fighting fit tomorrow.
    sending best wishes to you all
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    Lindylou: Thanks hon, yep I thought the dream would mean something as well as I had one in my first cycle and got a BFP plus so many other ladies on here said they had the same thing. I think my lesson from that cycle is that Pregnyl really does mimic EVERY pregnancy symptom. So funny about your paintings, at least that something else you can do to keep busy before your next cycle. I haven’t done any charts etc since we started IVF in May last year so I will def start doing those again. I really hope they can help us out, I have heard so many good stories about them. So sorry to hear about the anniversary of your mum. It must make it a lot harder to deal with when everyone coming and going and also seeing it all the time. On the upside though, it must be nice to feel that close to her still.

    MrsDaisyP: Hope you have been able to get your appointment darl, it makes it so much harder when obstacles get in the way. I too am a fighter like you and leave no stone unturned when it comes to this stuff, I think that all the Drs just end up seeing us a s a number and don’t realize just how hard this is for us. Ha ha ha love your name – IVF fraud, don’t feel like that. You are so close to starting and it all gets pushed back again. One thing I would suggest when you have down time is to do other tests to cover your bases as most of the time FS will try and get you to have a small break if they want to do more testing, I am kicking myself now that I didn’t look into things further at the start.



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    MrsDaisy- I know you see it as an obstacle, but I think its excellent that the thyroid issue was found now and not after one or more failed cycles. The 'normal' range for TSH is often quoted as 0.3-3.0, but for fertility the optimal range is actually much tighter (1.5-2.0). Like EO says, better to sort it out up front, rather than go through the devasting BFNs (not to mention the $$) and then have to wait longer between cycles down the track. I hope the endo at RPA can squeeze you in quickly and have you back on track! You're certainly not a fraud either, and this thread was intended for any and all stages of IVF, including the lead up to a cycle, so don't feel as if you shouldn't be here .

    EO- This will sound whacko, but I've never felt that my Mum actually left me. I still talk to her and still feel a strong connection, and I think that's what helps me carry on with my life. I like her being at home with us, my Dad is in a cemetary (he died 21yrs ago) and its so difficult organising time to go there. I don't believe you have to stand in front of a grave to show you still care, but I would like to be able to go more often to keep it clean and stop it looking neglected. Darn pregnyl messing with you like that! Although I'd much rather an orgasm as a side effect than the horrid things I hear about crinone . You will be amazed at what Sharkeys will pick up from your consultation questionnaires and your temp charts. You'll be shocked however at how terrible the herbs taste though. Dilute with cordial or juice and hold your nose!!

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    Sydney Girls Roll Call





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    EternalOptimist
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    PinkButterfly- DD 2007
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    Thought it was time to bring across the roll call, I'm cheering you on PinkB, Starf1sh & Quartz

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    Eternal Optimist – So sorry about your BFN, it really isn’t fair. You have had a rough road.

    I must admit I have experienced those same symptoms on pregnyl – i seriously thought i was pregnant that cycle – pregnyl is evil as it really tricks you – but it must keep prog levels nice and high with those symptoms whereas the pessaries didn’t do that for me – AF came earlier than ever. I hope your appt with your FS goes well and he has some answers for you and the appt with the counsellor goes well too. Thinking of you.

    MrsDaisy – Delays are certainly such a huge frustration – i agree with the others better to pick it up now than after failed cycles. Once they fix this problem there may not be anything standing in your way !!!

    Lindylou – sending big hugs for your mums anniversary, I hope it helped letting out some of the emotion. Its lovely you still feel that connection.

    Starfish – so glad your on the road, it would seem strange to take the pill! May 20 seems a while off but will be here before we know it. When do they test the embro's? at day 3? Hope this is your time.

    Crofty – good luck for your cycle

    Quartz – your embryo sounds great, good luck

    AFM – well hasn’t been the best cycle for me, very low oestrogen from the beginning – just a new problem I haven’t had before – not what you need!!! Found that pretty depressing but feeling a bit better now the cycle isn’t looking like getting cancelled – what a rollercoaster. I have 5 follicles probably ready tomorrow but pushing for Friday to give oestrogen time to increase, hopefully we don’t lose any. Back for scan and BT tom morning so fingers crossed. Feeling more normal on the prednisone now and can sleep again, not looking fwd to the dose doubling

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    Hi ladies my laptop is on the blink so will have to send a quickie from my phone & sorry no smilies!

    Eternal, You're welcome honey, no-one gets it like someone who is also going through it. Hope your FS appt went well today & your handover to Dr Lok is in progress. Yes, my DH is also doing acupuncture now. He has been going pretty much weekly since Nov & given we had a natural conception in Dec I would def say it is helping his swimmers. My DH goes to the IVF acupuncture clinic on the city so can go in his lunch hour.

    Lindy, OMG LOL when I read your one legged man comment. You are one funny chick!!
    Sending you lots of hugs on the anniversary of the loss of your mum. Love your outlook that she is there in your home & your everyday life. It must be a comfort to you xx

    Daisy, I'm with the others here...I do understand the urge to 'get on with it' when u desire a baby so much but I think you are fortunate to have discovered this before the 1st transfer. You will be in a much better position to get that BFP & each step is bringing you closer to your baby.

    Pink, so glad to hear that the cycle is looking up & 5 follies is great!! Wishing madly that you get 5 lovely mature eggies on Friday. Now listen up Little Miss Estrogen get your act together for Pink or else!!!

    I don't have my official orientation to the cycle till April 18 (read: time to depart with the serious cash but have been madly googling the array CGH protocol. Will post some info on the process for those who are interested it is quite amazing, particularly as they extract the polar body to test the copy of the chromosomes which are discarded anyway by the egg to make way for the chromosomes from the sperm... the mind boogles!!!

    Have a good night all, sweet dreams xx
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