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    So confused *Explanation required* high progesterone pre EPU means no transfer!

    So got a message from FC to advise that BT results today showed good rising estrogen levels and high progesterone - which means EPU wil go ahead, but transfer won't and Embys will be frozen (hopefully!!!!)

    If my progesterone is high, isn't that a good thing??? As this time round, I'm suppose to get additional progesterone support as I don't get through luteal support period?????

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    crofty - I don't know.
    But I think someone in the July thread had the same thing happen. I think it was something along the lines of, although progesterone is supposed to be high after EPU, if it's too high before EPU then the environment isn't going to be favourable for implantation.
    My big sister naturally does stupidly high progesterone - d21 P4 approx 200 on a natural BFN cycle - and on her BFN IVF cycles with progesterone support she never made it to BT before AF arrived. She suspects it's not just that progesterone needs to drop below a certain number for AF, but that the percentage drop may be important too, eg. a drop in a short time from ridiculously high to merely stupidly high might trigger AF.

    lola77 - I'm sorry your embies didn't make it to transfer this time .

    Sticky11 - I'm not a #5 girl this cycle, but I thought those that were might like to know about that omen.
    I'm on cycle #6, 7 or 2, depending on how you count them. 6th time we're going to transfer (hopefully). 7th time I've done a stim and EPU. 2nd time we're using this sperm donor.

    lindylou78 - I've been doing a down-reg cycle for the last 3-4 weeks. I trigger at 10pm tonight. I've been trying not to see any results this cycle, have even been reading a book during the ultrasounds so that I can't see the screen, but when my FS phoned this afternoon he blabbed that my E2 was nearly 6000, so about 6 eggs I guess. DH will be taking all the calls from the embryologist so I won't be able to give you girls any details because I'm not wanting to know them myself.
    As for the different Dr hopes you posted, my FS can't do my EPU so I'm getting Prof Illingworth instead. I also won't be having my usual anaesthetist, Cornelius, because he doesn't work there on Fridays . (My last 5 EPU have been on a Wednesday with Cornelius even though I started stimming on different days of the week.)

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    Congrats Lindy on being 'accidentally' PUPO with twins!!!

    Crofty, how frustrating!!! for some beautiful eggs at EPU.

    Lola, I'm so sorry Hope your FET can go ahead next cycle.
    Felicita, sending you so much and for your cycle, hope you are feeling good and wishing you lots of lovely eggs tomorrow and a great fert rate Btw Illingsworth is doing our collection and transfer this time too due to the digital high mag option only available at Westmead IVFA. Love to hear a review of what the day surgery there is like?

    Pink, bugger the hormones stopping you O (and making you look unattractive to your partner physically and emotionally! ) I'm sure it is actually the low libido side effect that makes the OCP effective! You are in my thoughts m'dear

    Big squeeze EO, Quartz, Traveler, Nat!


    and EVERYONE!
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    Thanx ladies, and I have stumped Felicita WOW

    G/L with trigger tonight Fel, (i am at 8pm - double trigger, not long now!!!)

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    Lola I'm sorry to hear about your embies :-( .... that's really disappointing for you and DH :-(


    lindylou .... Ha ha ha!! that's really funny! I can imagine your DH running away from the "spot" while trying not to breathe in!!

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    Lindylou - I'm actually laying here in bed with a killer headache laughing! That's hilarious and SO something I'd do. I thought for a second you were going to say it snuck out whilst you were getting your FET actually done. Thankyou for sharing and making me laugh on a difficult day... Our angel bubbas due date.

    Yep, our angel was due today. I've had a shocking day, got a killer headache and feel so stressed. I hate it, even after I lost the baby in March, I told myself that by the time that baby would've been due that I'd be pregnant again. But I'm not.

    But I'll be ok x

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    Starf1sh - Westmead is not fancy like Greenwich. (I haven't paid attention to where you usually go though, but I've only been to those two for EPU.). City West Day Surgery focuses on doing EPU for IVFA, and doing colonoscopies. It's not in the same building as the IVF clinic, its a couple of buildings further down the road (but before you get to the Tway bridge).

    At first I thought Shirley, the first nurse you meet, looked gruff and short-tempered but she's actually really, really nice and cares about all us girls.

    I don't know if partners are allowed into theatre or not. DH can't get ready in time to come with me so my mum drives me and waits in the waiting room. I was allowed to accompany DH when they tried a TESA there, but I think that was because they nominated me to be the spinal specialist.

    You get a plain cotton hospital gown, and booties and hairnet, and hop onto a bed to wait in a curtained alcove, but don't hop onto the bed until Shirley comes back and says you can. Shirley will do your obs, and the Dr, anaesthetist and scientist will all stop by at some point. You get wheeled into theatre and shimmy yourself across from the bed onto the operating table. (At Greenwich you get a plush robe, a heater, slippers, a private armchair cubicle and walk into theatre.)

    They make you wait a while in bed in first recovery, which is a bank of beds along a wall outside theatre. When you're allowed to get dressed you are supposed to do so without hopping off the bed .

    They used to let you walk to the armchair recovery, but now they wheel you most of the way because a few girls have fainted with the "long" walk.

    Armchair recovery is two rows of armchairs facing each other (no private alcoves like at Greenwich). You can keep your blanket or get a new warm blanket if you're cunning enough to "forget" it. They bring you basic food, i.e. toast with spreads and a hot drink tea/coffee/herbal tea if you want it.
    Then they'll call whoever is picking you up and they can come and sit with you until you're discharged. If they've been waiting at/near the surgery then they may be offered a cuppa in armchair recovery too to pass the time with you until you're discharged.

    Transfers are done at the IVF clinic and not at the day surgery. I've only done transfers at the new Westmead rooms and don't know how it's done anywhere else. The labs and ET rooms (which are technically City West Day Surgery Treatment Rooms) are swish and new. They're under positive air pressure so that there's a constant gentle breeze leaving those rooms and any airborne contaminants can't waft in.
    Make sure both feet step on the sticky doormat to clean dirt off the bottom of your shoes. You get half undressed and you and your partner don disposable labcoats, booties and hairnets. The embryologist spends most of her time on the other side of a wall, but there's a monitor mounted in your room so you can see the embies and anything else that happens under the microscope like when they check that the emby didn't get stuck in the tube.

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    sticky - how are you coping with the wait?


    crofty - I've no idea about the progesterone but would be interested to know the answer!

    felicita - like your idea of not hearing any of the info. Have you found it makes you less worried? Hope you enjoy your jab free day tomorrow!

    nat - big hugs for you I promised myself I wouldn't 'clock watch' and remind myself what stage I would have been at - however, I know off the top of my head that I would have been 21w 1d today. I can only imagine how difficult today must have been and reuly wish your angel comes to meet you very soon xx

    paddlegirl - good luck with your BT tomorrow

    AFM - not sure what to do next as my FS is sunbathing, sorry, working hard in Hawaii at a conference. We spoke to Helen Peric (stand in FS who belongs to Sticky) on Monday just to get triple confirmation there was no point in transferring. She couldn't really give us any more info given she doesn't know our history. Not sure whether a FET is the way to go yet.
    Have already been taking action to make some changes - finally went to my physio's gym to do work to strengthen my core to support my bulging disc - something I was supposed to do after my m/c. Have also finally watched the Bodytrim DVDs so I can get a move on and lose some kgs. Might also start doing some regular acupuncture but dont really want to take a 3 month break in order to do TCM.

    Hope everyone's having a good evening!

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    crofty - maybe have a chat with dextersmum. She's the one from July who had her cycle cancelled because of high progesterone (see quote below).

    Quote Originally Posted by dextersmum View Post
    ... I think the nurse may have definitely said Progesterone just becoz of the numbers she used. ( But I could be wrong) She did the test on the monday out of curiousity so i wouldnt have to go back in on the tuesday for the final one. But when she rang, she said my levels were already above the line... but she said the number 5? Which I dont understand :-( But she said they are finding if the levels are too high, then my uterus or something is not the right environment to host a pregnancy.?? I will talk to them again tomorrow to double check as I need to understand it. Its all too confusing. ...

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    Thanks Felicita for your detailed reply! It will actually be my sister going under so at least I can tell her what to expect. For once I will be the nervous person in the waiting room!! I usually go to Maroubra (not fancy either but you do get your own cubicle to wait in and recovery sounds the same as Maroubra. I feel a bit weird sis won't have Dr Sacks for EPU who has been my long term FS but crossing my fingers for both of us Illingsworth has the magic touch!!!
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