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    Default Azoospermia

    HelloLadies,
    Unfortunatelyfor my partner and I, we are in the same azoospermia as a lot of you. The lastthing that you want to here when you’re trying to conceive is ‘no sperm found’
    I will givea little background on DH and myself. I fell pregnant at 19 years old andbecome a mummy to one at beautiful girl at 20. The relationship with mydaughters father ended and found myself as a single mother @ 20 with a 6 weekold baby. Fast forward a year later and Imet my DH and sparks flew. I was 21 and he was 23 and become an instant daddyto my daughter. We brought a house and moved in together and started trying fora baby when my daughter was 3.
    After a yearand a half, and still no baby, we headed off to our GP for some test. Bloodwork come back fine for both of us but sperm sample came back as nil. Anothersample was requested as well as a referral to a FS. 2nd sample cameback as nil.
    FS ordermore blood test for both of us as well as another semen sample from DH and a CFblood test. After a nil reading from both, we went ahead with the needle aspirationin the testies. This also did not work. To say the least DH was devastated andthe journey had stopped. Fast forwarded 2 years and DH is now 30. We decide totake the next step. We signed up with a new clinic and new FS who referred us toDr Golovsky saying that he was who we needed. He ordered blood test for both DH and I
    We saw DrGolovsky on Dec 13 and after going over DH results he said that micro dissectionis the next step for us. More blood test for DH was order to check FSH levelsas his had always been in range but low, and well as something else (I have completelyforgotten the name) FSH was 5.9 and the other this was 110 which both Dr G and myFS were happy about. I was sent back offto IVF Aust @ St George on 14th of Jan 14 and we went over theIVF/ICIS process. We were sent home to await the phone call on when it willbegin.
    Yesterday I receivedthe phone call. DH surgery is on the 4th of April and I will startinjections on the 22nd of March. I am over the moon that things arefinally happening. This process started over 5 and a half years ago and in 2and a half short months we will finally know if DH has sperm. The last nearly24 hours has brought out a range of emotions. I have cried, I have laughed, butmost importantly I feel like we are finally getting somewhere.
    Now, we justhave to wait!

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    MissJadels: it sounded like a good plan you have there. You ladies in the east coast are so lucky. I feel like all the top notch specialists are there. The hardest part of the IVF journey is the emotional roller coaster. Take good care of yourself and hubby.

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    MissJude: how are you?

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    Hi ladies,
    I hope you don't mind me joining in at this late stage. I've read your posts and can see that some of you have been through a lot together and that the chance to share experiences can be really helpful.
    My DH was also diagnosed with azoospermia. He had a TESA performed by our RE (we're in Perth) just over 6 months ago and we were so happy to learn that they found some sperm. That sperm was then frozen and we began our first ICSI cycle in Nov. I had 8 eggs retrieved but unfortunately only 2 fertilised and only one of those make it past day 2. We had a 3 day compacting embryo transferred and ended with a BFN. The embryologist said that the sperm hadn't survived the freeze/thaw process very well and that they'd struggled to find sperm so suggested that we use a fresh TESA for the next cycle (we still have some frozen straws as back up). Anyway TESA #2 was performed on egg collection day and again we were lucky enough to get more sperm. The fresh TESA may have been more effective as we fertilised 3 of 7 eggs retrieved and all 3 made it to blast. We had one 5 day blast transferred and 2 precious 6 day blasts are waiting for us on ice now. Unfortunately we just found out that our 2nd cycle also resulted in a BFN.
    I know I should be focusing on the positives ie our 2 precious frosties, but now really worried that perhaps there is an underlying problem with the sperm and we may have to go down the donor route after all (and I was very concerned to read that there's a 2 year waiting time in WA). There is obviously also the possibility that there's an underlying problem with my eggs which would perhaps be worse as I understand that finding an egg donor is even more difficult (we don't know anyone that could donate in either case).
    Anyway, we need to take a month off before attempting our FET but think we're going to take 2 months off to recover and regain some focus and positivity as we're really low at the moment. We're going to see our RE again next week. Not really sure why - just want to ask if he knows why this isn't working as he seemed very positive to begin with. I find this journey so difficult but it's nice to be able to talk to folks who may understand.

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    Hi, dreamer123, welcome to the unfortunate club. Hugs.

    I can totally understand how you feel. Although this is our first IVF stim cycle, it is our last with DH sperms. We are lucky to have a frozen one despite being a late developer. It is very heartache to see that hubby gives up at this point. A bit discouraging so I am thanksful to have support from the ladies on this forum from time to time. It has been 3 weeks since our lost but i feel like it was just yesterday. I certainly know that BFN isn't any better! I thought I was getting a BFN with spotting. The donor route is always in my mind but when i finally have to face it (twice), I can't. First time when the Dr told me that he only found 1 unviable sperm at the operating theater. Second time when I lost the "baby". Unfortunately, I have not yet come to term with the donor as I am trying to focus on our FET. My FS has been very proactive and encouraging so I should also put in some faith. I will talk about the donor with the counselor to mentally prepare in the worst case scenario.

    You just provide a bit of a comfort to me. I read somewhere that the fertilization rate using TESE/TESA sperms are statistically quite high (~50%). Thus, I have been blaming myself that it is my egg problem (it could still be) and wasted hubby precious sperms. Then, the stories here on this forum seem to suggest that the fertilization rate is quite low with these sperms if they ever find any to use. Your story is just another example. The statistic also says that thawed sperms from TESE/TESA have less fertilization rate. That's why all FSs prefer to use fresh along with the IVF cycle.

    Since your hubby can get sperms from TESA, I assume it is obstructive azoo? May i know who is your FS? I can have a guess but you can PM me if you don't want to talk about it on the forum.

    I am not doing FET straight away because I need to give my body a good rest. It is also that I have non-stop business trips piling up in the next few months (a bit bump about stretching out to second half of the year, though). Hubby and I need a vacation to remind ourselves that we still have each other. We didn't have any break last year when I was (am still) so miserable about the whole thing and cancelled our christmas vacation because of the IVF cycle. In any case, my FS has suggested couple of new things to me. More blood tests and put me on supplement. I feel like the supplement is a bit late as those are for egg quality as far as i learned from this forum. But you do whatever you can and hope for the best. Usually, they won't bother with more testings until 3 failed cycles but our circumstance is different. I am glad that my FS reads my mind. I was planning to ask about those tests during my follow up anyway. They just drawn >10 vial of bloods from me few days ago. But now i am hitting a brick wall to find somebody to do uterine biopsy here in Perth. No one is interested in taking me as a patient without me cycling at their clinic. A long wait list so they don't care about your business. (Oh...in case you miss it, I did the IVF in sydney not here in Perth for a special reason).

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    Hi bbhope. Thanks so much for your reply and I'm sorry to read about everything you've been through. I'm very sorry for your loss. It sounds like you're doing the right thing by taking some time out before FET. You're going through an incredibly difficult time and you need time to recover so you can have the necessary energy and positivity for FET.
    It sounds like you're at a similar stage in your journey to me - taking time out before FET but at the same time worrying about what will happen if that doesn't work and thinking about the next steps after that. We're also taking a much needed holiday in Feb - think I need to slow down and not let my mind get so carried away. I haven't taken up any of the counselling sessions yet but i think will do so soon.
    We have assumed obstructive azoospermia but haven't actually had that confirmed by ultrasound. Perhaps we should have but it didn't seem worth pursuing when we got positive results from the tesa. Ill PM you with my FS details.
    I'm sorry to hear that your DH is finding it difficult to consider other options at the moment. Mine has kind of switched off from talking about things at the moment too but we have to remember that everyone deals with these things differently and perhaps he just needs a little more time.

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    Ok how do I PM?! :-)

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    You need to post certain number of posts before you can PM i think. Perhaps just say hi on a different thread. The perth thread. It is kinda silly with this PM system but i assume it prevents spam.

    To be honest, it is worth pursuing if it is obstructive or not. Most common cause is missing the vas deferens. That means genetic cause which can pass down to the child. One lady on the perth thread has a baby and was shocked to find out the baby is a cystic fibrosis carrier (passing down from the father obviously). It can be deadly. i am glad that her baby is doing fine. It is good to know in advance if that can be the case.
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    Yes we should ask more questions. He did have a CF blood test though - it was negative thankfully

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    Hey bbhope, I'm going good, thank you for asking. Sorry for being quiet. My work has gotten crazy busy and I am wrecked at the end of the day. How are things with you?

    Welcome Dreamer! Sorry that you have had some difficult news which has led you here but you're in the right place. We all know what it's like! We had not a single sperm found in TESA or mtese last year. It was an extremely difficult time. Thankfully, we got through it together and are now 10 weeks pregnant thanks to our donor. We are so excited. Sending you heaps of lucky vibes for your FET. x

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