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    Bbhope.... I can't recall what time DH did his BTs, but I'm thinking all of his have always been in the afternoon. I don't think that the time of the day has an impact on those results, unlike other tests when you have to fast etc.

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    Bertie, how are you doing? when is your next cycle?

    DH inhibin B test comes back normal but at the lower end. This is somewhat expected given that his FSH is at the upper limit.

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    Bbhope.... actually I started my 6th cycle last night!!! I wasn't going to start until next AF, but what happened is that this AF decided to come a whole week late, so I did the calculations and worked out that starting now worked in better with my already planned holidays.

    That's great news that your DH's Inhibin B came back with good levels - that will give you lots of hope. I'll be keen to see how he goes, but you're still in planning / consulting stage aren't you?

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    Glad to hear that you started your next cycle! I could only wish that it is the case for me.

    The phone consultation with Dr. G isn't until later this week. Yes, the wait is a killer!!! After the appt with Dr J, I pretty much declared not to do anything until next year. Two days later, we bought the airtickets to travel oversea for Christmas. I told DH that I just want to have something to looking forward to after what I want the most isn't happening. I took the news harder than DH. Now, knowing all the blood test results, I am hoping Dr. G will give it a go with mTESE. I don't think we can handle another comment of zero chance.
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    Bbhope... I think with Inhibin levels like that Dr G will definitely say yes. I'll be eagerly awaiting how your phone consult goes. Good luck.

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    As promised, I am reporting back the outcome of our consultation.

    This is probably the shortest consultation we ever had. 10 mins?!? (OK...maybe another 10 mins when Dr. G had to call back in the afternoon to provide some more information). We felt more like a follow up than an initial consultation. Dr. G jumped straight to discuss the inhibin B result and gave us a good chance! Bertie, you are right. He likes DH inhibin B result.

    Strange. Donor back up didn't come up in the conversation. Is it a requirement at IVFA?

    Dr. G's comment has sent DH to the moon this morning. DH wasn't in a good mood last night when I tried to get him into agreeing with the surgery even if it is only few percents chance. He had a lot of doubts about the procedure and long-term side effect etc and was prepared to ask Dr. G about it. After the good news, he is all in for the surgery and didn't even ask those questions.

    DH was a bit puzzled for the fact that two doctors have two complete different opinions. Well, the consultation was short because we got what we want. I prepared a lot of what if questions and options but I didn't need to ask in the end.
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    Bbhope... that is great news. I knew Dr Golovksy would like those Inhibin B levels :-) They are the biggest indicator to success of the mTESE procedure. I guess a phone consult would be a bit weird, but in person he is really lovely, and has a lovely bedside manner. Fairly frank, but very nice.

    You can freeze sperm, but some does get lost in the freeze and then in the thaw processes, so fresh is really best, if you can do that. Of course, for men with normal sperm (e.g. 50 million), then losing a few in the freeze / thaw wouldn't matter, but when we're talking about only a few then it does matter!

    IVFA doesn't like the donor sperm back-up to the mTESE procedure at all. We fought for this, but in the end our name didn't get to the top of the list, so we did the mTESE without it. The next day our name came to the top of the donor sperm list - I was highly suspicious of that co-incidence and still think to this day, that they held back our access on purpose.

    Then in our 3rd cycle (1st with donor sperm), I fought to allow DH to do an ejaculate, as well as to use the donor sperm, just in case DH would be able to produce 1 magical sperm (as sometimes he does get 1 or 2, but never more than 2). Our FS said, "but it's never been done before like that - it's either own sperm or donor." Apart from the slightest hope of getting a sperm from DH, DH felt like he was actually trying to conceive a baby by doing the ejaculate, rather than doing nothing. I fought for it, and now each cycle DH does an ejaculate, but no great swimmers have been found. DH and I know the scientists don't spend too much time looking, but it's kind of peace of mind, knowing that he tried :-))

    I know Dr Golovsky is training a couple of other doctors up in Sydney to do the mTESE, so it should become more widely used in future.

    My DH had considerable pain and discomfort for 3-4 days after the mTESE (lots of ice-packs and lots of pain killers), and then 2 weeks of being uncomfortable, but then fine. No, long lasting side-effects, the scar was quite big for a long while, but it's been 6 months now and you can hardly see it.

    What is your next step now?

    AFM.... I had my day 6 BT on Friday and started Luveris and Orgalutran. I was expecting to go for another BT on Monday but the nurses phoned and said not to come until Wed for BT + scan, to give time for follies to grow stronger. I really think that means they're going slower than expected, so I'll unlikely be ready for EPU on Fri, and more likely to be following Monday. That's fine with me - there's nothing more I can do, out of my control now :-)) Just need to start to plan some major excuse to get out of a whole day event that I'm organising on the Sat that's likely to be ET day!!

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    Yes, phone consult was very weird. He didn't ask anything like our occupation, our country of origin, medical history etc. We were asked about those during our first consultation. He just went straight to the test results and talked about the surgery. That's why i said it was more like a follow up.

    You are right. He was trying to tell us that any retrieved sperms can be lost in the freeze or thaw and thus it won't be ideal to transfer over to WA for the IVF. The last 2 appointments here in Perth ended up broken heart and needing time to think about it.

    Now, I will have to wait for the FS to call next week to discuss the details. In the meantime, i was told to do a bunch of blood tests.
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    Hello all,

    Finally, my first post!

    This week has been very tough for hubby & I. After our first 0 sperm result from SA back in April we have consulted specialists and ended up with mtese being done this week. Sadly 0 sperm were found. When the urologist phoned me after his surgery he said that it was 'looking positive as many tubules were found' - after 4 hours of analysis not a single sperm was found.

    We went into the mtese with donor sperm as a backup and were very realistic that we would need to use it. Today we learnt that eggs have fertilised with the donor sperm. So why am I now getting cold feet? After all our talking, research and counselling I thought I knew that's what we wanted but today I am feeling unsure. Throughout the whole process my biggest concern is the child and how it will make them feel in the future. Did anyone have a similar experience and can relate?

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    It's amazing what a good night's sleep can do! I have woken up today feeling much better about everything. I feel confident that we are doing the right thing and am excited about moving forward.


    What a whirl wind. To think at the start of this year I didn't even know what azoospermia was!

    If anyone has any suggestions for support groups for parents of donor conceived I would love to know. Thank you.


 

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