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    Bbhope.... we did the mTESE without donor back-up, as we didn't want to wait any longer for our name to come up on the donor list. We were ready to have the donor, but our name just hadn't come up and we couldn't stay in limbo land forever. The mTESE was basically unsuccessful - Dr G only found 1 sperm and though it fertilised, it ended in a BFN. But since then our two latest cycles, with donor sperm, have also been unsuccessful, so unfortunately for us the donor sperm isn't the miracle cure anyhow :-(( Now looking to my old eggs being the issue - double whammy :-((

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    Bertie, I am so sorry. We need a hug together. I looked up xytex web last night. It is so commercialised. I feel so weird about buying a baby. Perhaps we all went through this at some stage.

    Exactly, we don't want to be in the limbo land forever thus wanting to go ahead with the TESE first. DH backed out once he heard the word NIL. I know the chance is slim but i really dont want to have that what if in mind. Dr G office called back and he is willing to do a phone consult. Now if only i can convince DH that it is worth a shot no matter what. If the doctor here is so certain that nothing can be found and with thr i cant be wrong attitude, i dont want her to operate. Who knows if she would try hard to find the sperms.....

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    Nette, congrats again! So happy for you. Happy parents. Hope the little one is letting u rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbhope View Post
    Dr G office called back and he is willing to do a phone consult. Now if only i can convince DH that it is worth a shot no matter what. If the doctor here is so certain that nothing can be found and with thr i cant be wrong attitude, i dont want her to operate. Who knows if she would try hard to find the sperms.....
    I wondered that too, although it probably wouldn't be the FS looking - there is a scientist in the room for the operation who does that bit, I believe.

    Getting a second opinion via phone consult sounds like a good idea.

    Don't think of using a donor as buying a baby, by the way...you aren't. You still have to make the baby yourself. And you'll do harder yards than a normally fertile couple, no matter what decisions you make.

    Before we got access to the donor list we had to see a counsellor - is it like that at your clinic also? In those sessions we realised that you do pay for their sperm donation, yes - but the donor's counselling, regular medical tests, travel and time, staff at their clinic and yours, and refrigerated transport of the sperm from overseas costs money.

    Congrats DJ Nette. A wonderful happy beginning for the three of you!
    My DH is also smitten with our baby...and he/she isn't due for another 6 months!

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    Finally, got the copies of DH test results. I dont seem to find a reliable source to tell me what the normal range for FSH and testosterone. Any idea? I guess i am just trying to figure out if DH has normal value or some indications of not producing. Thanks.

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    Where is everybody? So quiet here.

    MCG Bertie, ya, i pushed Dr G office to verify the blood test with him. With the huge list you provided, he only said that the inhibin B test is needed. DH had done two other hormone tests. Strange, i thought FSH and inhibin B is correlated so i would think that with FSH info, one can guess what inhibin B is doing. Oh well, i hope the Dr office understands that we arent trying to be pushy but want to maximize our consultation effort rather than going in to be told we need more tests.

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    Bbhope.... Yes, I thought the FSH was important too. As to normal range of male tests, I have:
    - FSH - should be 1.5 - 13.00 U/L (my DH was 15.2 first time and 3 months later 23.6)
    - Testosterone - 9.5 - 28.0 nmol/L (my DH was 15.8 first time and 3 months later 30.0)
    - Inhibin B - 50 - 350 ng/L (my DH was 27 - never found out the second one, but by then it was all over)

    I think sometimes we think we're being "pushy" but what I've found out in this game, is that you have to follow-up everything yourself, you need to do a lot of research yourself, and you need to make a lot of suggestions yourself. Unfortunately that just is how it is, and from what others say there's similar experiences across different clinics and different states.

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    Just to add to that, we got a report once that showed normal values similar to those MGC Bertie posted, with these additional:
    LH: 2-9
    TSH: .4 - 4.0
    Prolactin: 45-375

    I can't tell you anything else about them - all my DH's test results were within normal range.

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    Hi,

    Dont mind if I jump in. Just read all your messages. So thankful to know I can connect with people in the same situation and who understand how it feels. No one I know suffers from infertility or maybe they do but no one speaks out about it.

    Our story begins early this year, after being married for over 9 months and TTC since our wedding night, we went to see the doctors 'just to be sure'. Like everyone else we were shocked when the nurse called me to tell theres 'nothing' in DH's SA and its the first time she has seen something with no count and asked my husband to go back for a retest. There could be an easier way to convey the news but looking back I guess there is never a nice way to say it. Anyway, our attitude of hoping for the best got crushed as we found out the second SA showed the same result and it was NoA (DH's FSH was 35). DH went to see an urologist who said DH had a varicocele but he doubted that was the reason, giving 25% odds that things will improve after surgery. We decided to go to remove the varicocele anyway (just to rule it out) and while performing the surgery the doctor did a biopsy which showed mostly Sertoli cells and few spermatogenic cells. As we expected the varicocele removal did not help and a SA in 3 months time showed 0 sperm.

    Mind you this time, we were living overseas and planning our migration to Perth for a better work/life balance and better schooling for our kids. Nevertheless, plans have been put in motion and we moved. By this time, we were opening up to the idea of a donor.

    We moved to Perth shortly after and after the long process of GP referral, seeing FS and the counselor, we are on the list. Except that the list is 18-24 months! Although Im probably not ready for it now (no job and I am still grieving about our infertility), 18-24 months is a long time. I can fly over east for a shorter waiting period when Im emotionally ready but right now we are working towards 18-24 months which is a long time away. The main reason seem to be that in WA all DS are local and not imported.

    In the meantime, we met Dr A Jequier and showed her all our results (one thing I noticed is that DH never did the inhibin test mentioned) and she gave us no chance for finding sperm. When asked why she said it’s a genetic malfunction and no one knows why it happens. She ruled out Klinefelter when I brought it up due to my husband’s physique.

    That’s our story so far. Im going for regular counseling which really helps me deal with our journey. I have read good stuff on bubhub about Dr Golovsky but I don’t know (I know DH isn’t) ready to go down the route of having hope and then getting crushed again. I hope in time, I will get to a good place.

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    Meltdown,

    good to know that there is another Perth buddy on the same boat. On the other hand, I do not wish any one facing the same problem!

    When I didn't fall pregnant, I assumed it was my problem. I got a lot of tests done and even went on 3 months intense acupuncture session (which I won't recommend that place to anyone for various reasons). Before I went on with 3 months acupuncture session, I had a gut feeling that it was DH problem by then. I had read a lot about DH condition and chances of infertility. However, DH refused to get the SA done so I bite the bullet. To cut it short, it was a hell of an effort to get him to do the first SA!

    Well, I don't know about your experience with Dr. J. I found her pushy. She was keen to operate without even order a 2nd SA to confirm the azoo diagnosis. When we went in the 2nd time, she didn't even want to operate until we have a donor as a backup. As you know, that's 2 yrs of being in the limbo land. In addition, she just told DH that the chance is zero and she has never wrong about it. Then, there is no point of spending the $$ and DH pain to do the surgery after all, isn't it? I would have to go through the entire IVF cycle as well (note, we don't have medicare and our priv insurance doesn't kick in for IVF until next April). I haven't gotten the answer that I want so I convinced DH to get a 2nd opinion. If you aren't aware, Dr. J doesn't perform mTESE. She is doing conventional TESE, which in my opinion isn't ideal for people with abnormal size testicles. Main reason why Dr. J doesn't want to do needle biopsy for DH and wanted to go straight to TESE.

    I know what you meant by getting hope and crushing it down. I pretend to be strong at this point. If I don't, I am not sure how DH is going to handle it. He is not convinced to go onto the donor route. He was rather relieved that I didn't sign up to be put on the WA donor list. I am not ready either but I have been imposing the idea to him every now to get him mentally prepared.

    Yes, inhibin B is one of the tests that she didn't order. DH just got it done because Dr. G wants that result (thanks Bertie for the tip!). I read somewhere that inhibin B is highly correlated with the mTESE success rate. It is a much better indicator than any other hormone tests. Actually, an article just says that there is no correlation between FSH, testosterone and success rate. As littlesunflower said, his DH has normal BT results and yet an unsuccessful one. On the other hand, like others had said, nobody can tell you if it is successful until they open up. Thus, I want DH to go with the surgery. I do not want to have what if in my mind for the rest of my life. I am hoping Dr. G understand that.

    It seemed like you guys had made a lot more progress than us since the diagnosis. DH was diagnosed early this year and we only got a lot of BTs done and 2 consultations with Dr. J. Did you get all the genetic tests done as well even though Dr. J doesn't believe that it is the Klinefelter?

    On an unrelated topic, I am surprised that you moved to Perth for a better work/life. I don't know where you moved from. DH and I lived in Sydney for few years and we found that the lifestyle is more attractive than perth. Now, the east is even more attractive considered that the housing and living expenses are lower than Perth.

    BB


 

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